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Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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But then who can? No global cloud providers, including Hetzner and OVH, are free from CLOUD act because they have US presence[1]. 1. https://us.ovhcloud.com/legal/faqs/cloud-act/

OVHCloud US is a different company from the rest of the world. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/cloud-data-act/

You can't just spin up an LLC and call it a separate company. OVHCloud is still OVHCloud US' subsidiary company.

From the FAQ page I linked:

> In accordance with our Privacy Policy, OVHcloud will comply with lawful requests from public authorities. Under the CLOUD Act, that could include data stored outside of the United States. OVHcloud will consider the availability of legal mechanisms to quash or modify requests as permitted by the CLOUD Act.

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OVHCloud US is a different company from the rest of the world. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/cloud-data-act/

You can't just spin up an LLC and call it a separate company. OVHCloud is still OVHCloud US ' subsidiary company. From the FAQ page I linked: > In accordance with our Privacy Policy, OVHcloud will comply with lawful requests from public authorities. Under the CLOUD Act, that could include data stored outside of the United States. OVHcloud will consider the availability of legal mechanisms to quash or modify requests…

> OVHCloud is still OVHCloud US' subsidiary company.

It’s the other way around.

> From the FAQ page I linked:

Which is for the US company.

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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I wouldn't think "sovereign" EU data would be protected from US snooping either, unless the Five Eyes Plus alliance is going to be dissolved. Even then...

I suspect the other 4 eyes are somewhat less willing to do the US regime's bidding these days

On what basis?

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

OVHCloud US is a different company from the rest of the world. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/cloud-data-act/

You can't just spin up an LLC and call it a separate company. OVHCloud is still OVHCloud US ' subsidiary company. From the FAQ page I linked: > In accordance with our Privacy Policy, OVHcloud will comply with lawful requests from public authorities. Under the CLOUD Act, that could include data stored outside of the United States. OVHcloud will consider the availability of legal mechanisms to quash or modify requests…

>You can't just spin up an LLC and call it a separate company.

You can actually. Becton Dickson did it and shafted loads of their employees by saying they no longer have pensions with them.

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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But then who can? No global cloud providers, including Hetzner and OVH, are free from CLOUD act because they have US presence[1]. 1. https://us.ovhcloud.com/legal/faqs/cloud-act/

OVHCloud US is a different company from the rest of the world. https://blog.ovhcloud.com/cloud-data-act/

The separation is even in the URLs, all the locales are using paths, except the US, which lives under us.ovhcloud.com. All locales use a customer console hosted at ovh.com, except the US, which has it under us.ovhcloud.com.

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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after this whopping great vulnerability in Azure, anything there prior to that being fixed should be considered public anyway: https://dirkjanm.io/obtaining-global-admin-in-every-entra-id...

Don't forget when Azure had it's root cert compromised. Which... maybe is still a thing?

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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An inevitable consequence of this administration destroying US foreign influence and power at an unprecedented rate is that (IMHO) it is inevitable that the EU builds their own cloud and mandates its use for EU data. It is becoming a matter of national security. The interesting thing is that the US is acting in the exact way that they accuse China of acting. Companies like Huawei are forbidden from installing telecom…

I don't think that YouTube video is a good supporting piece for your point. The spokesperson says they don't want to propagate harmful stereotypes. "brag about silencing dissent" seems like a strawman interpretation A better faith interpretation is that people are free to criticize Israel and Zionism on Meta, just not using racist tropes.

Oh if that were only true. It's been made apparent in the last 2 years in particular that fighting antisemitism from the perspective of the ADL and figures like Jordana Cutler (who previously worked for the Israeli Prime Minister's Office) simply means silencing critcism of Israel, even when that means siding with actual antisemites (up to and including neo_nazis and outright Nazis). Examples:

- Ben Shapiro excuses antisemitic remarks by Ann Coulter because she's pro-Israel [1];

- ADL defends Elon Musk for making the Nazi salute (twice) on stage [2]

- We brutalized people with the police for organizing peaceful protests to say "maybe we shouldn't bomb children" or to get their respective universities to divest their endowments from the state doing the bombing;

- We went so far as trying to deport legal permanent residents for organizing said peaceful protests (ie Mahmoud Khalil); and

- The IHRA definition of antisemitism includes criticisms of the state of Israel.

[1]: https://x.com/benshapiro/status/644505141299671041

[2]: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/22/adl-faces-backlash-...

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