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Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Post by spongebobstoes »

jmyeet wrote: post #16

An inevitable consequence of this administration destroying US foreign influence and power at an unprecedented rate is that (IMHO) it is inevitable that the EU builds their own cloud and mandates its use for EU data. It is becoming a matter of national security. The interesting thing is that the US is acting in the exact way that they accuse China of acting. Companies like Huawei are forbidden from installing telecom…

I don't think that YouTube video is a good supporting piece for your point. The spokesperson says they don't want to propagate harmful stereotypes. "brag about silencing dissent" seems like a strawman interpretation

A better faith interpretation is that people are free to criticize Israel and Zionism on Meta, just not using racist tropes.

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Post by dboreham »

1123581321 wrote: post #19
GTP wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, not relying on US cloud would already be a giant step in the right direction, by making it significantly harder to snoop on the data.

I don't believe that's the case because the intelligence pooling is meant to remove cross-border friction. A general breakdown of western alliances would probably be required (and maybe that's where we're headed.)

> A general breakdown of western alliances would probably be required

Hearing a distant shout of "hold my beer" from the White House...

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Post by Sayrus »

josephh wrote: post #21

But then who can? No global cloud providers, including Hetzner and OVH, are free from CLOUD act because they have US presence[1]. 1. https://us.ovhcloud.com/legal/faqs/cloud-act/

OVHCloud US is a different company from the rest of the world.

https://blog.ovhcloud.com/cloud-data-act/

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Post by immibis »

varispeed wrote: post #10

Governments are not exempt from Cloud Act and US providers can be under gag order, so from EU or UK government perspective, they will never know if data has been accessed by 3rd country and what happened to it. This is actually amazing that all the tenders have not been rejected under national security grounds or simply security services (yet again) have not done the job tax payers pay them to do.

> they will never know if data has been accessed by 3rd country and what happened to it.

They should have arranged to get a 100 euro refund every time it happens, or 440 euros if the UK does it.

Re: Microsoft Can't Keep EU Data Safe from US Authorities

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Post by blibble »

1123581321 wrote: post #12

I wouldn't think "sovereign" EU data would be protected from US snooping either, unless the Five Eyes Plus alliance is going to be dissolved. Even then...

I suspect the other 4 eyes are somewhat less willing to do the US regime's bidding these days
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