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Re: UPS plane crashes near Louisville airport

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What an intensely rude thing to say to someone who has been providing specialist knowledge in a very deep technical field up and down this page.

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I’d recommend giving your own goodwill in the future instead of accusing commenters and then asking for goodwill in response.

Re: UPS plane crashes near Louisville airport

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Forgive me, but by what possible metric: miles traveled in it?

Given an hour spent flying in a commercial US-flagged airliner or an hour spent in your living room, and you're (far) more likely to get hurt or die in your living room.

There's probably a selection bias here; if you're sick, you are far more likely to be inside your living room than on an airplane.

Re: UPS plane crashes near Louisville airport

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The second video here shows an incredibly close view of the impact from a nearby dashcam. https://www.wdrb.com/news/ups-plane-catches-fire-and-explode... > There is an incredible amount of ground damage! It's fortunate it wasn't taking off the other direction, towards the adjacent downtown of Louisville ( https://www.google.com/maps/place/Louisville+International+A... )

News site - video obfuscated.

I would say it's easy to see the list of videos with no undue nonsense, the list is augmented as new footage is available, it contains more context on the accident (also augmented with subsequent information), and the local news deserves the traffic more than twitter

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[citation needed] All things being equal, I would assume that you are safer in an environment that's stationary and reasonably sturdy, rather than in an aluminum tube at 40,000 ft above ground? Ok, as they say, all things are rarely equal, of course people are more likely to die of old age or of various diseases at home rather than while traveling (simply because old and terminally ill people probably don't travel th…

That's just it though. You're safer strapped into a seat, doing nothing, than you are doing whatever it is you do at home. Would you be safer in your living room doing nothing, strapped to a seat, never doing anything remotely hazardous (like walking around), vs the same in a tube in the sky? Yes, of course. But that's not what people actually DO in their living rooms!

Higher risk of developing blood clots while sitting immobilized at altitude in an airplane seat.

Contributing factors:

- Prolonged immobility, which causes blood to pool in the legs

- Low cabin pressure and dehydration from the dry cabin air

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Oh woah, very insightful discussion thread you found there. So the tl'dr is: the leading very preliminary theory is that the MD-11's left engine fell off the wing just like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Airlines_Flight_191 (a DC-10, the immediate predecessor of the MD-11) which was caused by maintenance errors weakening the pylon structure holding the engine.

The parallels with AA Flight 191 are striking. In THAT accident it was found [1]: 1) improper maintenance—American Airlines had used a forklift shortcut to remove the engine and pylon together, rather than following McDonnell Douglas’s prescribed method 2) The detachment tore away part of the wing’s leading edge, rupturing hydraulic lines and severing electrical power to key systems, including the slat-position indic…

And just to add for those that aren't pilots: When they say "reduced airspeed to V2" that doesn't mean reducing engine power, it means pointing the nose higher while thrust remains at the maximum permissable setting. You're loosing speed but climbing faster.

This can happen if you accelerated past V2 (V2+20 is normal) before the engine failure and then after the failure you slow down to V2 to get the best climb angle on a single engine plus some safety margins above stall etc.

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[Off-topic] >The police department also urged those in the area to turn off any air intake systems as soon as possible due to the smoke in the area. Excellent edge-case for IFTTT thermostat. Localized air quality alert --> Intake offline.

LLM reading the news could do this too!

You really want an LLM hallucinating that everything is ok and turning your air back on? Or hallucinating that everything was always ok and not turning your air off in the first place?

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> they tried to take off instead of accelerate past the runway at ground level Do runways have some sort of barrier between them and the next "important" thing. It seems like that would be prudent both for cases like this, and breaking failures following landings.

> Do runways have some sort of barrier between them and the next "important" thing. It seems like that would be prudent both for cases like this Ha, Jeju Air Flight 2216 smashed into a barrier on the second landing attempt in Muan last year [0], and people commented "How could there be a barrier at the end of the runway, so obviously stupid, irresponsible", etc. Now a plane does not smash into a barrier at the end of…

After 9/11, unlock the pilot doors. The passengers will revolt against any attempted aircraft hijackings.

We need members of the public ready to help in a situation where a pilot goes crazy, and they can’t help with a locked door making it impossible for them to enter.

Re: UPS plane crashes near Louisville airport

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Sure, but in this situation there is zero time for any of that.

There are countless situations where it can be helpful. You don’t have to focus on a particular one where this would not be of any use.

Sure, but we’re literally in the thread discussing the exact situation it wouldn’t be helpful in haha
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