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Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by ecshafer » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:46 PM UTC

thmoonbus wrote: post #288

lisbbb wrote: post #264

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I don't know why people reflexively vote down comments like this one since it is completely reasonable in every way. Just, I guess, leftists who can't accept viewpoints they don't agree with? Like really--read some history books, maybe read up on how bad communism was in Eastern Europe and what led to its total collapse? Let's not go down that road again! There's plenty of examples out there already. I don't even get…

Maybe it's because you're throwing around terms like "communism" incorrectly while simultaneously telling people they need to read history books. It's the same term Trump has been using to fear monger around Zoran's candidacy, and doesn't seem to relate to any of his actual policies. If you can enlighten us about the relationship between 1950s soviet bloc communism in eastern europe and a fairly run-of-the-mill 2020s…

Oh this isn't communism. Here are the facts, the Bolsheviks were a faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. They originally participated in the democratic process before they took power. Regardless of the fact that they are going through the steps now, the end goal of the DSA is the abolishment of private property. Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, whatever you want to call it, is a uniquely evil ideology that kills millions as they hate anyone with more money. It has not worked a single time it has been attempted. Every single time it has been tried in any form, Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin/Stalin, etc. millions die.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by slater » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:51 PM UTC

ecshafer wrote: post #781

thmoonbus wrote: post #288

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Maybe it's because you're throwing around terms like "communism" incorrectly while simultaneously telling people they need to read history books. It's the same term Trump has been using to fear monger around Zoran's candidacy, and doesn't seem to relate to any of his actual policies. If you can enlighten us about the relationship between 1950s soviet bloc communism in eastern europe and a fairly run-of-the-mill 2020s…

Oh this isn't communism. Here are the facts, the Bolsheviks were a faction of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party. They originally participated in the democratic process before they took power. Regardless of the fact that they are going through the steps now, the end goal of the DSA is the abolishment of private property. Socialism, Communism, Anarchism, whatever you want to call it, is a uniquely evil ideolog…

> the end goal of the DSA is the abolishment of private property

why confidently post something so obviously wrong...?

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by surajrmal » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:53 PM UTC

loeg wrote: post #478

bix6 wrote: post #197

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$30 min wage sounds doable? CA took fast food min wage up to $20 and it’s been fine.

> CA took fast food min wage up to $20 and it’s been fine. Reduced employment by 3% but otherwise fine, yeah. https://www.nber.org/papers/w34033 A nationwide $30 minimum wage would have a significantly higher impact (most places have lower wages than California and $30 is more than $20).

3% of fast food jobs. Honestly that seems like a worthwhile tradeoff. Fastfood prices have increased a lot in recent years as well, but it's unclear how much if any is due to minimum wage increase.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by Workaccount2 » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:54 PM UTC

seydor wrote: post #566

Workaccount2 wrote: post #282

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The reality, which kinda sucks and is boring, is that generally people with money understand how money works, and why things like rent control, government grocery stores, and free [expensive service], are financially brutal policies.

This is stuff economists know. Why would rich people know that? How many rich people pay rent or rely on social security? Making profits is not a skill transferrable to the broader economy. Also, what worked in the past, in different places or different demographics does not mean it will work again today.

There are a massive number of low income people who are completely "lost in the sauce" of finance and economics.

I'm not talking about billionaires vs. everyone else here, I'm talking about the top 30% and how it's chock full of people who "get" the structure, understand the mechanics, and do good for themselves.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by surajrmal » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:55 PM UTC

what wrote: post #312

bix6 wrote: post #197

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$30 min wage sounds doable? CA took fast food min wage up to $20 and it’s been fine.

>fine A medium fries is over $4 before taxes… over $1 more expensive than the rest of the country.

Prices are not related to costs. That's just a lie to folks use to justify price increase to the market. Prices never decline when costs do unless the consumer is wise enough to know like in the case for gasoline.

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:56 PM UTC

jychang wrote: post #257

duped wrote: post #238

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Manchin was a stooge who voted how he was paid. He doesn't get a pass for not being as clear a traitor as Sinema.

He voted how his electorate would have wanted him to vote. He probably also hoodwinked some rich people to pay him some bucks while he was at it. He's about as "shades of gray" as a politician gets.

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Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by cityofdelusion » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:56 PM UTC

ikety wrote: post #675

ch4s3 wrote: post #320

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State liquor stores are terrible, and I’ve never heard anyone say a nice word about on base grocery stores.

Highly disagree. The commissary on most military bases are awesome. Spent most of my life going there with my parents. Not sure where you heard they were bad. Never got that impression from any military serving people, like ever.

I feel like the commissary these days is really far behind private grocers. Yeah, 15 or 25 years ago they were awesome, but now it just resembles a poorly stocked (and much smaller) Walmart. Regional grocers have gotten really good in my lifetime. Used to go to the commissary regularly to save money and have a good selection, but those days are just long past. Same deal with base liquor stores, they are merely "OK", but again your regional private option is just so much nicer in the 2020s.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by AnimalMuppet » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 2:56 PM UTC

WatchDog wrote: post #309

I’m not a New Yorker or even an American, but it’s interesting just how much coverage this election has gotten in social media. I think most of his major policies are pretty bad, but I also think the reaction against him has been over the top. He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that. A…

> He is going to need cooperation from the state legislature, if he wants to collect the taxes needed to fund his policies, and I’m not sure how successful he will be at that.

Why? How much of NYC's budget comes from Albany?

My impression was that NYC had its own budget, paid for by its own taxes.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by mothballed » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 3:04 PM UTC

UncleMeat wrote: post #778

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It is of course RBG's fault at the base of it. Obama couldn't fire her or whatever. But by all accounts Obama did not push her very hard or treat this as a priority. He shouldn't have just asked nicely and then gone away once she said no. They could have built a public media narrative around pressuring her to retire.

It's quite possible Obama considered that and decided he would get the sort of response you would get telling your teenage daughter not to date the bad boy. Sometimes pressuring people backfires.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by majewsky » Wed, Nov 05, 2025, 3:20 PM UTC

dluan wrote: post #541

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That may be so, but how far do you think viral radical left wing populism is going to get you towards regaining people who voted for trump?

well Prop 50 to redraw California's district lines passed by a nearly 30% margin and counting right now. That's an absolute spanking leading up to 26 midterms. The story tonight isn't about Trump at all though, it's about millennial DSA types beating the establishment Democratic institution - in NYC, Detroit, Mississippi. In 24 everyone was astonished at the lack of response - "what is DNC going to do about losing to…

> He's now automatically in the conversation for the Presidential primary for 2028.

He was born in Uganda, so that ain't happening.