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Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by NaomiLehman »

brandonagr2 wrote: post #134
octaane wrote: post #73

You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list: 1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good. 2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egreg…

Government run grocery stores are middle of the road? What would progressive ideas look like on that spectrum?

Free food

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Post by jpfromlondon »

CommanderData wrote: post #669
pjc50 wrote: post #588

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As a Brit who has been exposed to the blanket coverage of this on social media: Mamdani is going to be like Sadiq Khan. Popular with people in the city, while those outside run endless weird fantasy "news" scare stories because he's a Muslim.

GBnews has been unrelenting and it's frankly worked to turn non-Londoners against London and Khan. It's disgusting they're allowed to vilify him so much without any accountability.

as a proud Londoner I'd like to see him held accountable for his own lies and questionable behaviour.

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Post by ch4s3 »

afavour wrote: post #345
ch4s3 wrote: post #320

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State liquor stores are terrible, and I’ve never heard anyone say a nice word about on base grocery stores.

That’s just goal post shifting. The point is that government owned direct to consumer stores exist in areas of all political leaning.

It’s the goalpost you set. They’re hardly mainstream if everyone hates them.

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Post by scott_w »

vjvjvjvjghv wrote: post #649
scott_w wrote: post #386

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Hindsight is 20/20. I recall Obama later saying he wished he was more radical because he only realised too late that the holdouts to ACA were never going to vote for it. Essentially, they negotiated in bad faith but Obama only realised this after they’d made all the requested changes and still couldn’t get the votes.

My ex worked at Congress at the time and even stupid me realized quickly that Obama was being played. I remember having fights with her when I told her that Obama is naive. Maybe they don’t see what’s going on when they are on the inside.

I can totally believe that. I mean, look at the shock that Democrats have had to Trump doing all the authoritarian things he said he'd do!

I saw a similar thing in the UK where the newly-minted Labour government thought they could combat ReformUK on asylum policy. Luckily, I think they're slowly starting to realise that, no matter how hard they tack, ReformUK will always promise something more insane and unworkable.

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Post by ikety »

ch4s3 wrote: post #320
throwaway81523 wrote: post #240

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Plenty of red states have government run liquor stores. And army bases have government run grocery stores along with government run everything else. I don't see the problem here. Progressive version presumably would be free groceries for everyone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_grocery_store

State liquor stores are terrible, and I’ve never heard anyone say a nice word about on base grocery stores.

Highly disagree. The commissary on most military bases are awesome. Spent most of my life going there with my parents. Not sure where you heard they were bad. Never got that impression from any military serving people, like ever.

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Post by mejutoco »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #147
testfoobar wrote: post #127

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My understanding is that he is proposing a 4 year freeze on about 1 million units. https://www.curbed.com/article/zohran-mamdani-housing-rent-f... archive: https://archive.ph/hnK4Q "The 34-year-old democratic socialist’s pledge for a four-year pause on any increases on the city’s 1 million or so stabilized units, effectively giving a reprieve to about 2 million stabilized tenants, was at the center of his campaign" I…

> 34-year-old democratic socialist’s pledge for a four-year pause on any increases on the city’s 1 million or so stabilized units Out of 3.7mm [1]. > not directly familiar with Berlin Not comparable. Berlin froze rents “on more than 1.5 million” apartments in 2020 [2] out of about 2mm. 25% versus 75%. Also, Berlin’s politicians didn’t propose a construction agenda. Mamdani has. (“New York City voters on Tuesday deliv…

Berlin reverted the rent freeze later because it was deemed unconstitutional. Many people had to pay back the money they "saved". Without entering in the other discussion the Berlin case was not a success.

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Post by debtta »

fastball wrote: post #556
nice_byte wrote: post #321

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"communism is when government do thing"

Communism is literally when the government owns the means of production. Owning the means of distribution is not far from that at all.

No, that's literally socialism. Communism is something different.

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Post by debtta »

octaane wrote: post #73

You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list: 1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good. 2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egreg…

Don't forget:

Eric Adams born 1960

Andrew Cuomo born 1957

Curtis Sliwa born 1954

Mamdani born 1991

On policing, on New York's relationship to Israel, on public transit, the so-called 'mainstream' is actually 'the average view of people over 60'.

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Post by [deleted] »

Tiktaalik wrote: post #152
nialv7 wrote: post #106

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I kinda feel Obama is more of a Trojan horse. It was not he tried and failed to get what he campaigned for implemented, it was more like he did a U turn after he got elected. e.g. he called for universal health care but once he was elected he started saying it was "too radical". I hope the same doesn't happen with Zohran. If he was going to fail after all, I wish that will at least be after he had fought as hard as h…

Run from the Left, govern from the Right. A pretty classic political electoral strategy of centrist liberals.

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Post by thrance »

bdangubic wrote: post #175
cryzinger wrote: post #27

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Zohran is the Democratic party now? Thank god, it's about time! :P

works in NYC but in swing states “zohran is a commie” will hum along nicely enough…

I don't think so. Americans want populism, doesn't really matter who provides. If you can focus the people's hate away from minorities and unto billionaires before it is too late, you might just save your democracy.
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