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Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by 27182818284 »

riffraff wrote: post #24
macavity23 wrote: post #17

I don't think Apple will be unhappy to see this at all . The most recent figures I've seen have the iPad at around 70% market share. There's no chance that will survive after this kind of device appears, but I would guess Apple would be very happy to own, say, the top 40% of the market while the Android OEMs bleed each other dry at tiny margins. Witness Apple's killer execution in the laptop market - and there they'v…

pardon me, I don't understand your reasoning. Why would apple be less happy with 70% of the market than with 40%? Do you mean that you expect the total size of the market to double, and then expect apple to own 40% of it (so they have a total number of customers which is slightly more than what they had initially) ?

Because it is like the MacBook line. Of the so-called "luxury" laptops, Apple has, for years, owned 9 out of every 10 "luxury" laptop purchase. 9/10 of the most expensive laptops consumers can buy have an Apple on their lid.

So they'll probably try to do the same thing with iPad. They aren't racing to the bottom.

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by jdminhbg »

ajross wrote: post #83
jdminhbg wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Say this Google tablet changes the tablet market from being "lots of early adopters" to "everyone remotely tech-savvy." In that case, Apple would be way happier with 40% of 10x the market they currently have 70% of -- it'd be more than 5x their current business. Additionally, a popular $99 Android tablet means that Android is now the bargain tablet. Other Android tablet makers will have to compete with Google, leavin…

Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. They're doing very well among web developers, so to a poster here maybe it seems that way. They're merely the largest single manufacturer among a very long list of PC vendors. And the bit about "bargain" vs. "high end" presupposes there are features there that justify the distinction. A $99 tablet isn't going to have a 4G modem (though it's unclear…

> Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business.

Hm? Apple went over 90% share of the $1k+ PC market way back in 2009: http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-...

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by moheeb »

jdminhbg wrote: post #92
ajross wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. They're doing very well among web developers, so to a poster here maybe it seems that way. They're merely the largest single manufacturer among a very long list of PC vendors. And the bit about "bargain" vs. "high end" presupposes there are features there that justify the distinction. A $99 tablet isn't going to have a 4G modem (though it's unclear…

> Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. Hm? Apple went over 90% share of the $1k+ PC market way back in 2009: http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-...

If I sell one $50 million dollar laptop I'll have 100% of the $50 million dollar laptop market!

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by zalew »

damian2000 wrote: post #25
zalew wrote: post #20

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my wild guess is the $199 will get 4g, while the $99 will be wifi only like the current nexus7. and obviously less storage.

BYO memory card storage perhaps.

I may be not far from the truth http://www.bgr.com/2012/09/03/nexus-7-3g-release-date-rumor/

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by officemonkey »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #80
tedunangst wrote: post #72

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maybe. remember when Apple was going to fade out of the computer business because they refused to make a $200 netbook? do you see anybody making $200 netbooks these days? everybody makes airbook clones at airbook prices.

No, but there are tons of people making $300 laptops. I think that did more to kill the netbook market than Apple did.

Netbooks were superlightweight computers you could take anywhere, just like the tablet market the iPad created. Most people complained that the netbooks were underpowered toys with tiny batteries. The first iPad addressed both of those concerns successfully.

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by bryanlarsen »

officemonkey wrote: post #96
bryanlarsen wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, but there are tons of people making $300 laptops. I think that did more to kill the netbook market than Apple did.

Netbooks were superlightweight computers you could take anywhere, just like the tablet market the iPad created. Most people complained that the netbooks were underpowered toys with tiny batteries. The first iPad addressed both of those concerns successfully.

Sure, that's what they were supposed to be. However, my argument is that to most people they were just cheap computers, for both senses of the word cheap.

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by ajross »

jdminhbg wrote: post #92
ajross wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. They're doing very well among web developers, so to a poster here maybe it seems that way. They're merely the largest single manufacturer among a very long list of PC vendors. And the bit about "bargain" vs. "high end" presupposes there are features there that justify the distinction. A $99 tablet isn't going to have a 4G modem (though it's unclear…

> Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. Hm? Apple went over 90% share of the $1k+ PC market way back in 2009: http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-...

That's pretty spun. It's true, of course, but by excluding the $950 laptops of other vendors (which are spec-wise very comparable with the Apple offerings) as "not high end" it's mostly just true by construction.

A similar number for "total units of 15 inch laptops with 4+GB memory and discrete GPUs" (my personal guess at a "high end" definition) would tell a very different story.

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by esrauch »

moheeb wrote: post #93
jdminhbg wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apple doesn't remotely "own" the high end of the PC laptop business. Hm? Apple went over 90% share of the $1k+ PC market way back in 2009: http://betanews.com/2009/07/22/apple-has-91-of-market-for-1-...

If I sell one $50 million dollar laptop I'll have 100% of the $50 million dollar laptop market!

I don't really understand what point you are making. Do you think that $1k is too high to be the "high end laptop market"?

Re: Google set to blow open the tablet market later this year with $99 Nexus tablet

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Post by kyriakos »

watty wrote: post #41
eckyptang wrote: post #3

I know this is purely anecdotal, but everyone I've seen recently who has bought a tablet, bought a laptop within 6 months or switched back to their old laptop and got rid of it. I'm still not convinced by the tablet hype. The star trek wow factor wears off pretty quick for most people. A $99 tablet may change that (temporarily as it's almost impulse buy pricing), but I'm not sure something of that price will have any…

Completely. I want to use my tablet but always end up using my laptop on the couch or desk. The only times I prefer a tablet would be on an airplane or in bed.

same here! it replaced bed reading material.
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