Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website” • Hacker News Board

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by tesseractive » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:55 PM UTC

jeremyarussell wrote: post #56

Paul_S wrote: post #19

The patent system is like a bug in a software that all your clients rely upon and will never let you fix. I expect peace in the middle east to happen before the patent system gets scrapped.

There's still a huge valid question about reform as opposed to scrap. The system would work if it was actually applied correctly. (I understand application is part of said system, but I'm referring to the overall human aspect, ie, the reason AskPatents.com was made.)

I understand why this is downmodded -- software patents as a whole are pretty awful. And I think we can just about all agree that the patent office is incapable of sifting through requests on its own.

But askpatents.com looks to me like it has some potential to work, and if it did, it might solve at least most of the really heinous examples. I'd say that at least merits making the possibility of reform an open question.

Forcing a massive shift in IP rights (that may not benefit large, entrenched interest) through Congress is an enormous undertaking that may not succeed. Reform may be a more practical option.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by moheeb » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:58 PM UTC

tjr wrote: post #40

beedogs wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I guess you could try blaming the rubber-stamping machine they're clearly running these applications through, sure.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone have an idea of what sorts of software patent applications have not been approved?

I heard they determined The Singularity was not innovative enough.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by scott_meade » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:58 PM UTC

bobsy wrote: post #26

Wow! What an innovation. I would never have thought of doing this. Its a shame I won't be able to do this myself now. Hang on? Isn't everyone already doing this for just about every other online venture? Someone registered via Facebook -> Post to wall. Hmmm. Maybe I should copy and paste their patent application and switch out "domain name registration" for any other service name. I think it is silly for 2 reason's.…

You seem certain that "everyone already doing this" is doing it in the way specified in the claims. Are you?

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by bicknergseng » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 6:24 PM UTC

Hm. Another fairly bogus patent, but who exactly is going to use it anyway? Even if you had the site already prepared and developed... CNAME and other DNS jazz takes a day to propagate anyway. You'd end up announcing something that wasn't there.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by noonespecial » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 6:27 PM UTC

bugsbunnyak wrote: post #46

mtgx wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone should post this on AskPatents.com, to make sure the Patent Office sees it, or is it too late for that already?

The patent is valid as of the issue date. A re-examination request can be filed at any time during the life of the patent. I haven't yet heard what, if any, formal relationship AskPatents.com will have to the examination process going forward. However, at least for an already-issued patent a re-exam would be required.

I wonder if it would be possible to collect some prior art, then call up a patent holder and shake him down for a little "settlement" to keep you from filing the re-exam.

Its like trolling backwards.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by patentdude » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 7:27 PM UTC

In addition to requiring a delay, the patent claims as allowed require that you GIVE GODADDY your credentials to the social networking site and that their server will use the credentials to log you in. Contrary to what some of you are saying, this is not oath.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by bugsbunnyak » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 9:20 PM UTC

jeremyarussell wrote: post #52

bugsbunnyak wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The patent is valid as of the issue date. A re-examination request can be filed at any time during the life of the patent. I haven't yet heard what, if any, formal relationship AskPatents.com will have to the examination process going forward. However, at least for an already-issued patent a re-exam would be required.

From my understanding the director of the patent office David Kappos, was the one that asked the people at stack exchange to make this site. I suppose they indeed haven't given any further details of how they will interact, but I don't see him taking this initiative without intending to bring to the attention of his office the patent questions which receive the highest votes. (seeing that is how stack exchange works…

I just noticed this answer, which gives an overview of how to officially provide prior art for a pending patent application:

http://meta.patents.stackexchange.com/questions/105/i-want-t...

This is really neat!