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Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by voidhorse »

ecshafer wrote: post #70

I hope this turns out well for New York, but I am doubtful. Rent control is such a colossally bad idea, a rent freeze is going to be a disaster. This is going to further increase the lottery nature of New York City real estate, and reduce investment. His plans are set to drive finance and businesses out of the city in his goal to give away money to everyone, which will bankrupt the city. Socialism has a bad track rec…

Mamdani has said basically none of the things you claim here. These are all clearly mischaracterizations of what he's actually said aimed and convincing someone like you to think he's a bad choice. In particular Mamdani has been extremely clear that he has no plans to defund the police in any fashion. In fact, he wants to enable NYPD to get back to solving crimes rather than incidents better handled by mental health professionals (e.g. people tweaking, by themselves, all alone, on the subway platform)

How about watch some actual interviews in which Mamdani states what he wants to do rather than only get your information from third parties who clearly want to emphasize particular angles?

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

octaane wrote: post #73

You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list: 1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good. 2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egreg…

The fact that I was seeing Sliwa favourably speaks to the candidate quality in this race.

> No dirt. Other that some stupid stuff he said while he was young

Stupid stuff he credibly disavowed.

I’m still blown away that after De Blasio he was the only one, when asked a foreign policy question, who said he’d put city priorities first.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by _coveredInBees »

testfoobar wrote: post #52

Mamdani's and by extension, his voters', ignorance about the effects of price controls in markets will be an interesting real-time political experiment. When the inevitable unintended outcomes become to emerge who will be blamed? https://rentguidelinesboard.cityofnewyork.us/resources/apart... https://www.zohranfornyc.com/platform Quoting Paul Krugman (Nobel prize winner and liberal columnist at the NYT). "The analysi…

The Atlantic had a good article on this and how it isn't the doom and gloom you lay out above:

https://www.theatlantic.com/economy/archive/2025/11/mamdani-...

As some of the replies note, it has been rather successful and popular in other cities like Berlin.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by Braxton1980 »

ecshafer wrote: post #70

I hope this turns out well for New York, but I am doubtful. Rent control is such a colossally bad idea, a rent freeze is going to be a disaster. This is going to further increase the lottery nature of New York City real estate, and reduce investment. His plans are set to drive finance and businesses out of the city in his goal to give away money to everyone, which will bankrupt the city. Socialism has a bad track rec…

Crimes in the city is down in the long term and there's been a Covid spike that also happened around the country regardless of the elected officials.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by burnt-resistor »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #84
burnt-resistor wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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> who concealed that he was a warmongering, neoliberal hack Obama pitched himself as a pragmatist. He governed as a pragmatist. It honestly looks like Mamdani has the sense to do the same.

Apples and oranges. Pragmatism without principles is still no principles. Mamdani has principles.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by nialv7 »

michaelbarton wrote: post #13

I hope this win signals (to both parties) that voters are receptive and will get engaged when a clear message is presented about cost of living and quality of life issues. Some of which are taken for granted in most other western countries. I’m no political wonk, and I’m curious what others with more insight might say about his ability to fund and implement his polices. I’m reminided of Obama and his hopeful message…

I kinda feel Obama is more of a Trojan horse. It was not he tried and failed to get what he campaigned for implemented, it was more like he did a U turn after he got elected. e.g. he called for universal health care but once he was elected he started saying it was "too radical".

I hope the same doesn't happen with Zohran. If he was going to fail after all, I wish that will at least be after he had fought as hard as he can.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by ecshafer »

budududuroiu wrote: post #89
ecshafer wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Keeping a building rentable is a pretty reasonable criteria for… renting.

Except NYC has laws making it difficult to do. A 2019 law they passed limits the amount a unit can have its rent increased in the case of a capital improvement at a small fraction of the capital cost. Now that interest rates are higher land lords are forced to keep units vacant, since theyll lose money taking a loan to get units up to code.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

burnt-resistor wrote: post #105
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> who concealed that he was a warmongering, neoliberal hack Obama pitched himself as a pragmatist. He governed as a pragmatist. It honestly looks like Mamdani has the sense to do the same.

Apples and oranges. Pragmatism without principles is still no principles. Mamdani has principles.

> Pragmatism without principles is still no principles. Mamdani has principles

Ex ante versus ex post facto.

New Yorkers aren’t idiots who vote in pie in the sky absolutist lunatics. I’m hopeful Mamdani can show new ideas are electable, even if his particular pitch is finely tuned to the deep blue.

Re: Zohran Mamdani wins the New York mayoral race

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Post by nialv7 »

octaane wrote: post #73

You guys have it all wrong. There was only one candidate for the dem party, Here's the list: 1) Cuomo. Sexpest who has been accused by many women of some pretty shitty stuff. Also a member of a multi-generational dynasty, which is not good. 2) Mayor Adams. Federally indicted by the Feds. They have a 99% conviction rate. Not because they're corrupt, but because they only go after people who have dome some really egreg…

well 40% still voted for Cuomo.
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