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Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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Actually, in this case I expect you to reject common law standards you would otherwise embrace: the right to a fair trial, the presumption of innocence, the writ of habeas corpus, standards of evidence, etc., and instead to rely on your instincts and feelings. It feels nicer for many to think like a medieval peasant than an enlightened liberal when it comes to Israel and the Jews. Nor am I surprised by your antipathy…

Like this? https://opiniojuris.org/2025/05/14/how-did-the-israeli-supre... That's the Supreme Court defending the starvation policy in Gaza. That exact court that liberal, progressive Israelis were fighting tooth and nail for during the last years, as the last bastion of democracy.

The opinion piece you link to is false in two respects: first, Israel has never had a starvation policy in Gaza, and second, the courts never defended the policy because it never existed.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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The whole situation is so extreme it almost reads like sick parody. Last year there were riots in Israel when some IDF soldiers were arrested for raping prisoners. The riots were in defense of the rapists, and were attended not only by extremist Israeli civilians but also Israeli lawmakers, who stormed the military base where the rapists were being held. The leaker releases a video of some of the abuse and is then ac…

This is common in fundamentalist theocracies.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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post #143

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Like this? https://opiniojuris.org/2025/05/14/how-did-the-israeli-supre... That's the Supreme Court defending the starvation policy in Gaza. That exact court that liberal, progressive Israelis were fighting tooth and nail for during the last years, as the last bastion of democracy.

The opinion piece you link to is false in two respects: first, Israel has never had a starvation policy in Gaza, and second, the courts never defended the policy because it never existed.

Yeah yeah, and the 6000 trucks on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing were just standing there for fun.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c0k77xm651jt

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-14/ty-article-ma...

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-12/ty-article-ma...

Even now, during the ceasefire, Israel only allows goods in through Kerem Shalom and Kissufim and keeps the other crossings shut, even though aid organizations urgently demand that they must be opened. Explain to me why.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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"they" didn't debate it in knesset. it was screaming match in one of subcommittees meetings in which, quoting the cbs news: ------------------ Lawmaker Hanoch Milwidsky was asked as he defended the alleged abuse whether it was legitimate, "to insert a stick into a person's rectum?" "Yes!" he shouted in reply to his fellow parliamentarian. "If he is a Nukhba [Hamas special forces that took active part in october 7th,…

One Zionist says the caught-on-video-rapists are innocent until proven guilty. Another Zionist says that the unknown and untried Palestinian as a valid target for rape. Another Zionist says that rape can be self-defense. What a movement.

so, you admit that what you said about "knesset debate on right to rape" is lie ?

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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The whole situation is so extreme it almost reads like sick parody. Last year there were riots in Israel when some IDF soldiers were arrested for raping prisoners. The riots were in defense of the rapists, and were attended not only by extremist Israeli civilians but also Israeli lawmakers, who stormed the military base where the rapists were being held. The leaker releases a video of some of the abuse and is then ac…

One of the rapists is now paraded as a hero on Israeli TV. Sick, sick society.

And all we have to do to have them roll over on our command is to threaten the halt of the billions of weapons and aid we send annually. My main issue is that Israel/US relations feel like the tail is wagging the dog. Israel exists because of the West. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to recognize that we have immense leverage over them due to them being surrounded by enemies and dependent on US weapons systems like the Iron Dome... we can basically force them to do whatever it is we want. I blame the US and the bought politicians for the tragedy in Gaza as much as I do the Israeli's.

I have the feeling Israel simply will go the way of Rhodesia within a few generations due to the actions of this war resulting in widespread de-legitimization on both sides of the political spectrum and especially generationally. No one in the US actually wants to spend tax money on a patch of land in the Middle East the size of New Jersey, especially if they don't behave.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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Look, I also find sarcasm extremely annoying, it's an anathema to meaningful discussion. However... your non-sarcastic interpretation is clearly in bad faith, and ratchets up the hostility even further. Why post this jeering reply?

He's advocating for a return to medieval methods of justice, and trying to cloak that advocacy with sarcasm. If that's not worth derision (the kind of derision where you simply point out what one is saying), what then is worth derision?

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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post #153

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The opinion piece you link to is false in two respects: first, Israel has never had a starvation policy in Gaza, and second, the courts never defended the policy because it never existed.

Yeah yeah, and the 6000 trucks on the Egyptian side of the Rafah crossing were just standing there for fun. https://www.bbc.com/news/live/c0k77xm651jt https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-14/ty-article-ma... https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-08-12/ty-article-ma... Even now, during the ceasefire, Israel only allows goods in through Kerem Shalom and Kissufim and keeps the other crossings shut, even though…

I see you're linking to some debunked articles about the gaza starvation hoax.

Do you seriously think Israel had a policy of starvation? Obesity is common in gaza; there are restaurants everywhere; there aren't any pictures of starving families; all the pictures of starving kids have turned out to be of kids with serious pre-existing conditions; there have been only about 200 malnutrition related deaths in two years of war in gaza, orders of magnitude less than here in the US. And no belligerent in the history of war has ever allowed in more aid to the opposing side than Israel.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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I see you ignored this opportunity to confirm the accused is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair trial before people call them rapists. Too bad. Of course I didn't walk back my claim that the video is doctored, and of course it's not unsupported. Here is one of many articles alleging the video is doctored and pointing to the specific person (Guy Peleg) who doctored it by splicing together different clips…

>I see you ignored this opportunity to confirm the accused is innocent until proven guilty and deserves a fair trial before people call them rapists. Too bad. It's not actually required for someone involved in a discussion to waste their time responding to straw men. >This is just reporting, and it will need to be tested in court. Ah, so we've moved on from strawmanning to moving the goalposts.

Just because you called my argument a strawman doesn't make it one. Since I see you're not willing to advocate for normal common law justice, I don't think we'll ever agree, and I'll put this argument to rest.

By the way, there is no serious debate about whether the video was altered. Any casual watcher an see it's spliced clips. The question is only whether it was altered maliciously, to paint a specific picture. That is what needs to be tested in court.

Re: Israels top military lawyer arrested after she admitted leaking video of abuse

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One of the rapists is now paraded as a hero on Israeli TV. Sick, sick society.

And all we have to do to have them roll over on our command is to threaten the halt of the billions of weapons and aid we send annually. My main issue is that Israel/US relations feel like the tail is wagging the dog. Israel exists because of the West. It shouldn't take a rocket scientist to recognize that we have immense leverage over them due to them being surrounded by enemies and dependent on US weapons systems l…

US military aid is around 1% of budget. The consensus in Israel is to stop accepting this aid from USA.

Iron Dome is Israeli weapon system. Out of all weapons that Israel gets from USA the only things that Israel doesn't produce domestically are planes (Usa killed Israeli fighter jet project 40 years ago) and helicopters. All other weapon systems are domestically produced. Israel is eighth largest arms exporter in world

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