The real question: is Dotcom innocent of his alleged crimes? The real story is that if Dotcom was facilitating piracy. The technicality of if he was wire tapped illegally or not is important in theory, but it comes down to this: Dotcom would not be in trouble if he hadn't broken the law. If he was innocent, then this would be a big story. This is similar to someone caught in video robbing a store but beating the char…
New Zealand admits illegally spying on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom
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#12The real question: is Dotcom innocent of his alleged crimes? The real story is that if Dotcom was facilitating piracy. The technicality of if he was wire tapped illegally or not is important in theory, but it comes down to this: Dotcom would not be in trouble if he hadn't broken the law. If he was innocent, then this would be a big story. This is similar to someone caught in video robbing a store but beating the char…
We give police, lawyers, and others in the criminal justice system great power over us - they're legally permitted to punish and physically restrain humans. That cases can be won on technicalities - when police, lawyers, etc break the rules that protect us from them - helps to keep them honest and trusted. That's how we watch the watchers.
Re: New Zealand admits illegally spying on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom
#13The real question: is Dotcom innocent of his alleged crimes? The real story is that if Dotcom was facilitating piracy. The technicality of if he was wire tapped illegally or not is important in theory, but it comes down to this: Dotcom would not be in trouble if he hadn't broken the law. If he was innocent, then this would be a big story. This is similar to someone caught in video robbing a store but beating the char…
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#14https://torrentfreak.com/new-zealand-prime-minister-apologiz...
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#16This is my surprised face. Other western countries do what is asked of them when the US comes calling.
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#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Justice is getting punished for crimes actually committed." A government's complete disregard for due process is a far greater crime than piracy. The punishment for this crime is "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities".
> The punishment for this crime is "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities". I disagree. The punishment is to find the person or persons responsible and, at a minimum, fire them. That should serve as a warning to others that you either do it right, or not at all. The "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities" is a side-effect of erroneous judgement.
Do it right or you lose the case. That's the deal.
Re: New Zealand admits illegally spying on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom
#18The real question: is Dotcom innocent of his alleged crimes? The real story is that if Dotcom was facilitating piracy. The technicality of if he was wire tapped illegally or not is important in theory, but it comes down to this: Dotcom would not be in trouble if he hadn't broken the law. If he was innocent, then this would be a big story. This is similar to someone caught in video robbing a store but beating the char…
The reason he is celebrated is because he is famous for bypassing a system many consider to be broken. He is famous for not being afraid to put his own system into place, a system he and many other liked better. He is famous because he did not try to hide. He is famous because he's fighting the system he and others wish to see replaced.
Is he a criminal? Yes. Does being a criminal mean you cannot also be a folk hero? If you say yes, I don't think you know what a folk hero really is. Quite often they are criminals. Look into Bonnie and Clyde, Robin Hood, Guy Fawkes, Che Guevara, Jesse James, Spartacus, etc.
Re: New Zealand admits illegally spying on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom
#19The real question: is Dotcom innocent of his alleged crimes? The real story is that if Dotcom was facilitating piracy. The technicality of if he was wire tapped illegally or not is important in theory, but it comes down to this: Dotcom would not be in trouble if he hadn't broken the law. If he was innocent, then this would be a big story. This is similar to someone caught in video robbing a store but beating the char…
Re: New Zealand admits illegally spying on Megaupload founder Kim Dotcom
#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Justice is getting punished for crimes actually committed." A government's complete disregard for due process is a far greater crime than piracy. The punishment for this crime is "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities".
> The punishment for this crime is "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities". I disagree. The punishment is to find the person or persons responsible and, at a minimum, fire them. That should serve as a warning to others that you either do it right, or not at all. The "[c]riminals winning cases on technicalities" is a side-effect of erroneous judgement.
Spying on citizens without a proper court order should be mandatory jail for all involved.