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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by HeinzStuckeIt »

mrguyorama wrote: post #453
sjsdaiuasgdia wrote: post #308

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To follow topics on Bluesky, add feeds for those topics. The "Following" tab is literally that - chronologically ordered posts and replies from accounts you follow. The "Discover" and "Popular with Friends" tabs give you algorithm-sourced stuff that is somewhat connected to who you follow. When I click on the tab for the Game Dev feed, I see nothing but posts about game dev. When I click on the Astronomy feed, I only…

The reality is that microblogging, whether it be on X or bluesky or mastadon or even facebook posts, will ALWAYS be lower signal, lower value than real, curated or effort filled content. I like John Green a lot, including his vlogs that are just him speaking about stuff he doesn't know for half an hour, but I still do not go read what he posts on Bluesky, because it's as low quality, low signal, low intent, and low e…

Earlier, I would have agreed that microblogging pales next to long-form blogging. But then so much long-form blogging moved to Substack that has an overall culture as full of pathologies as microblogging: post regularly even if you don't have anything new to say, hustle a brand that can be monetized, accept a comments section with a broken UI full of people shamelessly trying to hustle their own brand. People doing long-form video content will often speak openly about how they feel forced to change their content in order to avoid being punished by the YouTube algorithm.

Personally, I'm pessimistic that there are many remaining sources of substantial discourse and discussion at all. I just pirate a lot more university-press books from Anna's Archive.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Levitz »

agos wrote: post #35
robot-wrangler wrote: post #17

Since we're doing PSAs, isn't it also now just a completely broken platform on mobile for everyone who isn't logged in? > Something went wrong, but don't fret - let's give it another shot. This is all I've seen for literally years now. No real error, does not even say to login or install an app, just blames it on my privacy extensions (I don't actually have any) and offers a button to pointlessly try again. No big lo…

remember when part of the commentary was "ha! twitter fired one bajllion people and it's still operating fine". I keep seeing errors, much more than in the flying whale era, just now they appear to be in the frontend.

Well, wasn't that sentiment a response to those arguing that the site would cease to function or be outlawed in several countries?

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Levitz »

toyg wrote: post #177
ndr wrote: post #170

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Who is using Bluesky in the US? Whenever something big happens I keep getting x.com links from friends. Is it just my friends?

> Who is using Bluesky in the US? A lot of writers and creatives who could not stomach X.com anymore (and were then likely burned by Mastodon's geekiness). > Is it just my friends? If your friends are in the right-wing sphere (e.g. Joe Rogan listeners, etc), then yeah, likely.

>If your friends are in the right-wing sphere (e.g. Joe Rogan listeners, etc), then yeah, likely.

I reckon there's more of a correlation between this type of statement and being a Bluesky user than being right-wing and using X.

I mean X userbase is enormous compared to that of Bluesky, you can't be serious.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by nomilk »

Banning PG was a mistake [0]

> [George Hotz] I'm upset when I see PG get banned for mentioning mastodon

> [Elon] yeah, that was a mistake

[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkNkSQ42jg4&t=42m14s

Meta note: it's worth listening to this historical 'space' in full (well, the first ~1h while Elon's on). The meta-pattern becomes obvious: people (esp nay-sayers) are outraged about ~20 different issues, X since addressed most of them, but the outrage-mob moved on to new issues, X will address them, and so on.

The point: the ragey mob is never satified, X moves very quickly (partly due to it's willingness to try things, and occasionally fail in the short term) but this strategy is long-term optimal.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by madeofpalk »

ndr wrote: post #170
bpavuk wrote: post #158

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Well, there are platforms that did figure it out, but it's quite fractured. For US, you have Bluesky and Fediverse (Flipboard, Mastodon). In Ukraine, you can use Threads. Germany seems to love Bluesky and Mastodon, given the amount of independent Personal Data Servers and Mastodon instances located there.

Who is using Bluesky in the US? Whenever something big happens I keep getting x.com links from friends. Is it just my friends?

I've never received a x.com link from a friend. Maybe we run in different circles with different people.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by hshdhdhehd »

netsharc wrote: post #60
gcr wrote: post #48

Does this mean an attacker can turn any impression into any GET request?

It'd be an interesting way to count how many impressions your tweets get: add a URL to every tweet, put a tracking "pixel" in the webpage (assuming the webview loads all assets; if not, then just add the "pixel' URL to the tweet..

Make the pixel a zip bomb for lols

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by guywithahat »

beezlewax wrote: post #73

Why are you using twitter for anything at this stage?

It's still the platform where things happen. Even if I'm no longer fundraising there's still a strong, interesting investor community. When founders join an app or companies go to brag about their engineering prowess they still use X. Most people just don't care about Elon enough to leave or not join

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by _djo_ »

whimsicalism wrote: post #250
delecti wrote: post #247

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I suspect our politics are just too different for my attempts to defend the culture itself to be relevant, but it is super easy to cultivate what you see on Bluesky. You can detach your posts if you get quote-reposted, you can limit who can reply to posts (to followers, people who follow you, people you've mentioned, or only to yourself), blocking someone also means that 3rd parties can't even view the threads (and s…

i consider myself left-wing and found it very toxic. the ubiquitous blocking features are also a pretty big negative as i found myself blocked by a considerable portion of the site simply for following people in AI site features can only go so far when there is a broader cultural ethos

Honestly, getting on those blocklists is a benefit in and of itself, it means anyone who is radical enough to follow blocklists that block people just because of whom they follow won’t cross your path.

There is an extremely toxic component to Bluesky’s user base, unfortunately, with the many attacks on the CEO for not banning Jesse Singal being testament to that. But for what it’s worth in the circles I’ve cultivated there I now see very little of those toxic people, and I don’t see any support for their behaviour. So I hope in time a more open culture will win out.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by cubefox »

Arrath wrote: post #372
fusslo wrote: post #274

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I dont know if this is in the same vein, but I want to complain about how websites handle pdfs. Slack, Teams, confluence, jira, etc all open a pdf in a in-browser preview thing. Then if you try scrolling, it makes the PAGE contents bigger, but does NOT zoom into the pdf. Who thought of this? Who thought it was a good idea? Never have I wanted to open a preview of the pdf.

Seriously. I have a featureful PDF viewer I am intimately familiar with. I want it to be the default for all PDFs, ever. This gimped viewer in the browser is not what I want.

> This gimped viewer in the browser is not what I want.

The previous comment was not talking about the browser viewer, it was talking about various website viewers, like the one by Jira.

I agree website viewers are pointless. But most of the time I actually like the browser viewer better, if it opens links directly, than offline viewers. Because I regard PDFs as websites (similar to jpeg files), and I normally don't want to accumulate them in my download folder.

I agree though that the browser viewers are often too bare-bones.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Levitz »

djeastm wrote: post #408
csallen wrote: post #398

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The fact that the left defined Joe Rogan as right-wing for not adhering to very specific far-left tenets (e.g. de-platforming personas non grata and cooperating with cancel culture) only served to push him and his listeners rightward, and thus became a self-fulfilling prophecy.

>only served to push him and his listeners rightward Kind of takes the agency away from full-grown adults, doesn't it? How about people have principles and don't change them to chase audience/money/fame, eh?

For a communicator, no audience means you lose everything. Why would he, or for that matter, anyone do that?

Look at JK Rowling. Stood her ground, if it wasn't for her books allowing her advocacy, she'd have disappeared. Instead she has to endure being among the most hated millionaires for a good bunch of the left.

Say Rogan sticks to his guns. He would face similar, never-ending attacks, no left-leaning figure could attend his podcast without becoming guilty by association, so he'd end up interviewing basically the same people as he does now, only he wouldn't cater to some people that, given somewhat recent events, would most probably celebrate him getting murdered.

I reckon we shouldn't take away the agency away from the adults who made purity testing a common practice, given the utter disaster we are experiencing as a consequence.

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