Cool to see the recently launched FULU bounty program[0] working as intended[1].
[0] https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/nest-learning-thermostat-...
NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
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Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#42Right now it's just a blob that you flash to your device to make it talk to a proprietary service. It is not yet "giving me complete control over my device data and settings." I can't change where it comnects to etc.
In fact - I don't even see a privacy policy on nolongerevil.com!
Hey, I can login at nolongerevil.com using my Microsoft-owned github login! And there's yet another company involved: clerk.com - yay?
"We are committed to transparency and the right-to-repair movement. The firmware images and backend API server code will be open sourced soon, allowing the community to audit, improve, and self-host their own infrastructure."
I look forward to it.
PS: Sorry for being so negative... perhaps the release should have been delayed until all of this is opened up.
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#43I have a nest thermostat, but the strongly worded warnings are scary.
And, I would really love to wire my nest into home assistant, but getting past the Google house of horrors is even scarier.
Are there any good thermostats that can be used with home assistant? I would really like to start understanding my energy usage in a safe way.
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#44If your boiler supports OpenTherm then get this thermostat controller https://github.com/Alexwijn/SAT Weather comp + low load comp + PID which means your room temperature works at the precision range supported by your temperature sensor. In my case, within 0.02 Celsius. Saves energy and makes your house more comfortable. Operated via home assistant. See real time data in Grafana https://gasboiler.grafana.net/public-d…
There's also ems-esp which I use on an older Worcester Bosch boiler to set flow temperatures based on the outside temperature (managed by home assistant).
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#45Living in a cold room with an evil presence is better than roasting in hell with an angry wife.
You can still spin the damn encoder.
A younger me would have had the same gusto. Age has taught me that attempting to improve the AC, in ways that my family can neither appreciate or understand, is merely going to lead to disaster.
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#46They should match the acronym and call it No Evil Systems Tolerated, or No Evil, Sane Tech firmware (N.E.S.T)
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#47I can't express how much damage Google has done to its reputation in my mind with how they EOL'd the online functionality of these devices. I have 3 of them. I will never buy a Google device of any kind ever again.
Yeah I immediately switched to a Honeywell Z-Wave thermostat as soon as I got the email that they were discontinuing them.
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
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#49Why does it need to connect to some server at all? Why cant it just work with home assistant or what ever?
Re: NoLongerEvil-Thermostat – Nest Generation 1 and 2 Firmware
#50Living in a cold room with an evil presence is better than roasting in hell with an angry wife.
This is why I hate digital thermostats. With the old classic round Honeywell thermostats you could turn the dial a fraction of a degree when nobody was looking and "boil the frog" to get a reasonable temperature. With digital thermostats, you can only change the temperature in discrete steps which will be immediately noticed.
>Why does it say 74?? I had it set to 75!!1!