Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website” • Hacker News Board

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by duskwuff » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 3:59 PM UTC

AhtiK wrote: post #28

bajsejohannes wrote: post #17

In gmail, I filter every email from GoDaddy and apply label "change registrar", just so I'll remember when my domains expire. I'm not really liking most things I see from GoDaddy; perhaps with the exception of pricing.

Most of the registrars top up the time your domain has with the current registrar at the point of transfer. At least Namcheap does. Be aware of the following 60-day restriction when planning the transfer from GoDaddy: http://support.godaddy.com/help/article/3560/transferring-do...

All com/net/org/info registrars do that -- it's an inherent feature of the registry.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by freejack » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 4:25 PM UTC

duskwuff wrote: post #61

AhtiK wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most of the registrars top up the time your domain has with the current registrar at the point of transfer. At least Namcheap does. Be aware of the following 60-day restriction when planning the transfer from GoDaddy: http://support.godaddy.com/help/article/3560/transferring-do...

All com/net/org/info registrars do that -- it's an inherent feature of the registry.

That's actually not the case. Godaddy implements this locally, and arguably in contravention of the ICANN policy.

oBDisclaimer: I participated in the development of the original and amended ICANN transfer policy. I understand that there has been a subsequent amendment and I'm just not interested enough anymore to find out what it includes. You may in fact actually be correct in that ICANN now permits this, although I'm pretty sure that this isn't the case :-)

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by jiggy2011 » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 4:26 PM UTC

shimfish wrote: post #35

Maybe someone here can patent the act of making trivial, over-reaching patents and put a stop to all this?

Too much prior art.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by protomyth » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 4:41 PM UTC

bratsche wrote: post #33

protomyth wrote: post #31

if some politician would get rid of "business process patents", we would be 90% of the way there.

I was under the impression that those already didn't qualify for patents. At least, this is what my friend told me years ago when he was either in or had recently graduated from law school at UT. Is that not the case?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_method_patent

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by gergles » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 4:42 PM UTC

bratsche wrote: post #33

protomyth wrote: post #31

if some politician would get rid of "business process patents", we would be 90% of the way there.

I was under the impression that those already didn't qualify for patents. At least, this is what my friend told me years ago when he was either in or had recently graduated from law school at UT. Is that not the case?

Do a patent office search for "system and method" and you will discover that they certainly do qualify. There was a period where they did not, but then some appellate court suddenly decided they do and now you get what we have here.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by IanDrake » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:09 PM UTC

debacle wrote: post #44

IanDrake wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Genius, however, I had already patented getting a patent on patenting the announcing of a domain name registration on a social website. times infinity...

Guys, this isn't reddit. Edit: Or Slashdot.

Yeah I wouldn't normally post something that ridiculous, but given the state of the patent system, it seemed worth mocking.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by matthuggins » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:26 PM UTC

bo1024 wrote: post #42

bugsbunnyak wrote: post #38

For what it's worth, this doesn't happen in a vacuum. If you want to read the arguments, enter the patent number 8276057 at this website: http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair Look under the heading "file wrapper" for all the communication. In particular, read: CTNF Non-Final Rejection REM Applicant Arguments/Remarks Made in an Amendment NPL Non Patent Literature NOA Notice of Allowance and Fees Due (PTOL-85)…

For those who haven't seen it: http://patents.stackexchange.com/ (This is the same as askpatents.com)

And a link to a question specifically pertaining to this patent:

http://patents.stackexchange.com/questions/535/prior-art-for...

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by drbawb » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:31 PM UTC

emehrkay wrote: post #41

Damn I need to move that last domain off of Go Daddy. Ill do that today.

Just started my own transfer for one of my domains; I might let the other one lapse.

This was the last kick in the pants I needed to get off of GoDaddy.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by SODaniel » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:53 PM UTC

Good to see Godaddy focusing on their core business and keeping secure, reachable and reliable instead of useless fringe projects.

Re: Go Daddy patents “announcing a domain name registration on a social website”

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Post by bugsbunnyak » Thu, Sep 27, 2012, 5:54 PM UTC

jeremyarussell wrote: post #52

bugsbunnyak wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The patent is valid as of the issue date. A re-examination request can be filed at any time during the life of the patent. I haven't yet heard what, if any, formal relationship AskPatents.com will have to the examination process going forward. However, at least for an already-issued patent a re-exam would be required.

From my understanding the director of the patent office David Kappos, was the one that asked the people at stack exchange to make this site. I suppose they indeed haven't given any further details of how they will interact, but I don't see him taking this initiative without intending to bring to the attention of his office the patent questions which receive the highest votes. (seeing that is how stack exchange works…

The promotion by the director is a great sign, and I can see AskPatents being very useful for prior-art searches (one of the results of which is the NPL document referenced above). It will hopefully improve results and save money.

Absent some statutory changes, it's hard to see how it will impact the prescribed, formal steps of the patent review process. Patent filings are a lot more complicated [edit: as compared to existing legal forms websites], but I can imagine a template interface that would allow crowd-sourcing before a final review to cross the Ts and dot the Is.

It would be phenomenal if the PTO streamlined the process themselves. Baby steps...