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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by randallsquared »

rolandog wrote: post #259
tshaddox wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I have the opposite complaint with YouTube, particularly with these new Twitter web views. It takes 3 “navigations” now to get to the iOS YouTube app: one to open the Twitter web view, one to open that URL in Safari, then one to open at YouTube video in the native app.

Isn't that because they ask you to sign in if you're not leaking enough information?

The "open in YouTube" button just does nothing in the (iOS) webview, for whatever reason. So, in order to get a working open-in-app button, you have to open the webpage in your browser. Not sure if intentional or a bug.

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Post by nxor »

neogodless wrote: post #307
nxor wrote: post #293

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There are videos of other famous people, including Harris, making a similar gesture. Elon Musk supports Israel. So he is an NS member. Right.

"Similar" is not same. I watched the videos. There are ones where Warren does a "ramp" motion, AOC is just waving, etc. If you only look at freeze frames, you can claim whatever you want, but a stiff-armed Nazi salute is a specific motion of the arm, not a freeze frame.

If he wanted to do one, he would. Additionally, there are right wing groups that use the gesture. This just isn't a case of that. We need to learn to differentiate.

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Post by jandrese »

nkohari wrote: post #126
robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

There was a real attempt earlier this year to move to BlueSky, but it's become even worse than Twitter for different reasons. BlueSky's definitely gotten a lot of the technical side of things right (as compared to the fediverse, the complexity of which blocks mainstream adoption). Unfortunately, it's also now an incredibly unpleasant place to be unless you want to swim in constant political ragebait. Twitter also has…

If someone is feeding you ragebait on Bluesky you should just unsubscribe. The feed is what you make it. Twitter can be kind of like this too, but the trolls haunt the replies on there whereas people can shut trolls out of their replies on Bluesky. That's the big difference, is someone comes into a thread just to stir shit the original poster can shut them down.

The danger that this creates an echo chamber has to be weighed against allowing trolls to run unchecked, or worse be like Twitter where these people get promoted to the top because ragebait generates big engagement numbers.

Ultimately, the entire social media world needs to admit that maximizing engagement is a bad idea. They have to somehow convince the advertisers that having their product next to content designed entirely to enrage the reader is not good.

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

nutjob2 wrote: post #204
gruez wrote: post #101

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>Cutting food stamps. How is Musk involved in the current budget debacle aside from being "republican"? It's easy to blame stuff on him when he was running DOGE, but since his falling out with trump blaming every cut on Musk is a tired and expired meme.

"He gave the federal government organizational cancer, but he left now so he's not to blame" Americans will be living with Musk's legacy for decades.

Hopefully, fingers crossed

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by jandrese »

SilentM68 wrote: post #261

X is an authoritarian platform designed for freedomless speech. People, including myself, were booted out for giving opinions that did not align with their corrupt values. Even post-Elon, after appealing decision, some of us still haven't been let back in.

Which opinions were those again?

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Post by lukan »

alpineman wrote: post #258
itsoktocry wrote: post #205

I've been a long-time Twitter user. I don't hate Elon, so when he bought it I was cautiously optimistic. I deactivated last week. The platform is bad and getting worse. It's scammy and spammy. Everything is designed around garbage engagement, so that the X team can brag about how good the product is doing.

I am honestly curious what Elon would need to do for you to dislike him. That ship sailed for me long ago

Words have meaning. He said he does not hate him. That does not mean he likes him. Hate is a very strong emotion. Dislike is a much less stronger emotion. That is not all the same.

(I also don't hate Elon, but I still don't like him or consider doing buisness with him in any way)

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by 1234letshaveatw »

mayneack wrote: post #117
gruez wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Cutting food stamps. How is Musk involved in the current budget debacle aside from being "republican"? It's easy to blame stuff on him when he was running DOGE, but since his falling out with trump blaming every cut on Musk is a tired and expired meme.

Given how much he contributed to the election outcome it hardly seems tired to blame him for the consequences. Plus he's on Twitter every week publicly discussing how much he uses the platform to put his thumb on the scale of discourse towards his personal beliefs. In what world is he not involved?

The consequences of blocking a CR?

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Post by ceejayoz »

nxor wrote: post #286
ahoy wrote: post #279

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you guys won, what do you want?

I didn't vote. I also live in a state that votes the same every time.

> I didn't vote.

As the great poet Taylor Swift puts it, "It's me, Hi, I'm the problem, it's me..."

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Post by btown »

nomdep wrote: post #96
robinhood wrote: post #66

I find it so sad that Twitter still gets traffic at all. Even if we put aside the super shady content on this platform (free speech, lol), the app, either on the web or mobile, has a sub-par user experience. I wish all the devs that I respect were using another platform.

The algorithm is a mirror: it show more of what you interact with. You see “shady content” because you pay attention to it. But you can also follow people and read only what they write, reply to them, and write yourself.

Even if you believe that Musk and team don’t “touch the scales” of the algorithm, the inevitable consequence of the decision to prioritize comments of people willing to pay for blue checks, is to discourage users not in that segment from engagement at all levels.

The resulting shift in attention data naturally propagates to weight the input to the algorithm away from “what does an average user pay attention to” and more towards “what does a paying user pay attention to.”

Setting morality aside, this is a self-consistent, if IMO short-sighted, business goal. What it is not is a way to create a fair and impartial “mirror” as you have described.

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