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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by gertop »

toyg wrote: post #175
nomdep wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The algorithm is a mirror: it show more of what you interact with. You see “shady content” because you pay attention to it. But you can also follow people and read only what they write, reply to them, and write yourself.

The discussion over X is always the same: "It's gone to hell" "No, it just reflects your tastes" "That's objectively false: create a new account and see what happens." "..."

The same can be said of bluesky. In fact I think that you've said it yourself and recommended that people stick to manually curated follows!

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Post by yapyap »

itsoktocry wrote: post #205

I've been a long-time Twitter user. I don't hate Elon, so when he bought it I was cautiously optimistic. I deactivated last week. The platform is bad and getting worse. It's scammy and spammy. Everything is designed around garbage engagement, so that the X team can brag about how good the product is doing.

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Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by duxup »

sd9 wrote: post #154

This seems like a fairly reasonable UX improvement. Unless I'm missing anything, it doesn't seem like this has nefarious intent, it's just there so that when a user clicks a link, they see the content as quickly as possible. --- It's astonishing how quickly discussion disintegrates when Musk is mentioned on HN. He really is such a divisive figure, with incredibly polarised language both in support and against him. No…

>it's just there so that when a user clicks a link, they see the content as quickly as possible.

Yes and many people think that is outweighed by all the other issues raised in the larger thread here. That's "nuance and reason". Pretending it isn't there is not "nuance and reason".

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by labrador »

labrador wrote: post #80
beezlewax wrote: post #73

Why are you using twitter for anything at this stage?

It's still the most interesting platform for AI

I just tried to find AI starter packs on BlueSky and confirmed that BlueSky is openly hostile to AI. I understand the reasons, it's just not where I'm at. I'll try Threads and see what happens.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by duxup »

labrador wrote: post #59

On a related topic, I've been following with some amusement the outrage on Reddit/r/Grok because Grok will no longer make porn. Apparently Grok was trained on all the NSFW material on X and Twitter before it intentionally so Grok could have a "spicy" mode. And spicy it was. Some of the stuff it made was really good and people loved it. But (allegedly) Musk changed his mind to go after enterprise and government accoun…

I think the more general issue with all AI and "safe" is that AI 'learned' what it knows from human content ... and we object to the content we as humans created.

Hard to avoid that problem.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by Quitschquat »

I don’t know what everyone gets out of Twitter/X. I signed up recently to see what the fuss is about,

I think I selected science and music as starting interests. Within 10 minutes I was getting lots of right wing borderline Nazi bullshit.

Tries it all again in incognito mode. Roughly same thing. WTF

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by mooreds »

redman25 wrote: post #125
nomdep wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The algorithm is a mirror: it show more of what you interact with. You see “shady content” because you pay attention to it. But you can also follow people and read only what they write, reply to them, and write yourself.

A whole lot of machine learning practitioners use X. Makes it difficult to avoid if you're interested in the news. It's definitely a network effect issue.

You might find this useful: https://news.smol.ai/

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Post by ceejayoz »

sporkxrocket wrote: post #227
ceejayoz wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm very much in the Musk hater category, but it really takes some doing to dismiss SpaceX as vaporware.

Going to the moon is very much vaporware. Maybe the penultimate example of it.

Going to the moon was, at the very least, demonstrated as technologically possible in the 1960s, and you can literally go watch a Starship launch if you want. I have a very hard time putting it in the same "entirely prospective" category as androids, self-driving taxis, and Mars bases.

Re: Tell HN: X is opening any tweet link in a webview whether you press it or not

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Post by mooreds »

sd9 wrote: post #154

This seems like a fairly reasonable UX improvement. Unless I'm missing anything, it doesn't seem like this has nefarious intent, it's just there so that when a user clicks a link, they see the content as quickly as possible. --- It's astonishing how quickly discussion disintegrates when Musk is mentioned on HN. He really is such a divisive figure, with incredibly polarised language both in support and against him. No…

Webviews have serious security issues, at least if you enter any data into them.

See this article from 2016: https://developers.googleblog.com/en/modernizing-oauth-inter...

So my worries are that someone is going to click a link in Twitter and then enter their username and password into a news website. When this happens you need to trust the app developers.

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