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First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Re: First recording of a dying human brain shows waves similar to memory flashbacks (2022)

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

Llamamoe wrote: post #83
kakacik wrote: post #55

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Their life is shit already, that's why they act as they act, passing aggression on to others in vain effort to get rid of some of that 'evil' in them. I understand this knee-jerk reaction very well, but it just feeds the neverending spiral of aggression. We humans act like storage of both good and bad, it then comes back up in various situations. What I want to say - you just beating up a bully will mean some other k…

IIRC this is a misconception and bullies bully strategically to climb the social ladder and benefit from it. It's possible that they do it because they learned pathological systems of behaviour from pathological family/social experiences, but even if fighting back against them is also shitty, it beats enabling them to keep doing it (especially to you)

>IIRC this is a misconception and bullies bully strategically to climb the social ladder and benefit from it.

pretty much any human social phenomenon can have multiple causes.

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Post by silveira »

ExoticPearTree wrote: post #30

I read an article a while back, than when something really bad happens to the body, the brain looks back into memories to "see" how to solve the problem - maybe it happened before and it will know what to do (like when you cut yourself the second time, you know exactly what to do). But because it never encountered something like it, it cannot find a solution. And apparently this is why people when they die see their…

I was reading the comments trying to find something similar to this. I remember reading a similar explanation. The brain in a ultimate attempt of solving that fatal situation goes deeply thought memories to find anything that could help. Evolutionarily, this would make sense.

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Post by squarefoot »

Reflecticon wrote: post #29
_2zip wrote: post #18

When I was around 15, I used to hang out with a guy who was much senior to me, and he would bully us sometimes. One day, when we were bantering, I cracked a joke that a third guy with us (who was my age) found funny and crackled. The bully grabbed my neck and choked me till I lost consciousness. I remember having memory flashbacks related to missing a train, and someone waiting at the wagon door, waving at me to hurr…

I'm sorry that happened to you. That's so horrible. Wanna make me beat up bullies, man. Got damn bullies.

Most bullies just vent out what they suffer at home, school or workplace. They already punish themselves by not reacting against the real source of their problems.

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Post by pcrh »

gausswho wrote: post #74
VagabundoP wrote: post #66

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Anesthetics are very weird though. There's still a lot we don't know about how they work. They seem to act like you experienced, complete shutdown, for most people, which seems different from the states that people go into when unconscious or are near death usually. And some people have a very different experience while under them - they are fully aware.

I had heard something unsettling about anesthesia that I could use verification or debunking. The gist was that modern implementations suppress memory formation rather than induce unconsciousness. That you remain in some sense aware of what's happening but don't remember the experience. This is safer than traditional methods, but could potentially subject the patient to complex mental or emotional trauma. Is that acc…

Partly correct.

The modern implementation is to use general anesthesia as little as necessary as it has numerous side-effects. Local anesthesia with improved selectivity is used if possible.

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Post by silveira »

artur_makly wrote: post #71
andrehacker wrote: post #25

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Just rewatched it on Laserdisc last month (era-appropriate and all) :) The computer effects are amazing (especially considering it was made in 1983), the concept is very interesting, the acting is a bit odd, and... Natalie Wood sadly died during production (her sister stepped in to help complete the movie).

Her death was even more mysterious https://people.com/natalie-wood-death-legacy-what-to-know-86...

Just watched a podcast on this. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-mysterious-death-o...

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Post by bena »

seemaze wrote: post #97
lordnacho wrote: post #50

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For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

My first time I remember the anesthesiologist asking me to count backwards from 100. I assumed the process would take 30 to 60 seconds. I don't think I even hit 97..

Yeah, people think they can "fight" it, but you can't. That stuff will knock you out. The counting is just so they know when you're out.

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Post by EvanAnderson »

tirant wrote: post #15

I have lost consciousness several times in my life. Not a pleasurable experience specially as last time I did it because of such extreme pain that I thought I was passing away. However I have had always recollection of those seconds or minutes when I was unconscious: there was always an intense and quick succession of memories and images accompanied by sound. At some point the external sound from people trying to rea…

I once lost consciousness after a bad bike wreck that left me bleeding significantly from both knees. I lost consciousness while sitting on a bench waiting for my wife to arrive after walking my bike back to the trail head.

I remember having a very vivid and pleasant dream (riding in a car with some friends and laughing) while I was "out". I came-to when a bystander started beckoning to me ("Sir! Sir!"). Their calls bled into my dream first, then I awoke and realized I was laying face-down in the grass by the bench.

The pain was gone in the dream, but, of course, came back when I awoke. I sort of wished I could just pass out again.

Interestingly that dream has stuck with me in a way that typical sleeping dreams don't.

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Post by lordnacho »

avh02 wrote: post #98
lordnacho wrote: post #50

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For contrast, when I was put under with propofol for surgery, there was nothing. I thought I would gently fall asleep, but it was actually extremely fast. It went from "tell me about your life" which the anesthetist uses to check your state to "oh so came here for uni..." to "huh the surgery is over" in a single cut. Nothing in between, nothing like that thing you feel when before you fall asleep at night or wake up…

Had the same experience, what scared the crap out of me is that feeling of not even knowing you're out is how some people spend their last moment. Not just in surgery for example but in extreme other situations (nukes, titan sub, piano to the head, etc)... You're just there then you aren't and you don't even know. Shook me (lightly) for a while

For me it gave me some peace about death. Say you are vaporized by a nuke. You're walking around chatting one moment, and there is no next moment.

I'm guessing being properly flattened by a truck is similar, though of course that's adjacent to being severely injured and dying later.

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