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I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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It's funny, almost every conversation I have about the fact that I work as a software engineer with new people I meet nowadays seems to include them asking if I'm worried about AI stealing my job. Maybe it's something that people ask everyone nowadays regardless of what industry they work in, but at least as far as I can tell, the type of work I do doesn't seem in any apparent danger of being replaced by AI any time…

as of today that's probably true, but if the labs manage to keep increasing the 50% time horizon (defined by METR as 'the length of tasks (measured by how long they take human professionals) that it can complete autonomously with 50% probability') at the current pace, it might not be for long. Exponentials are hard enough to forecast if you kinda sorta know the parameters, and we don't have that comfort today.

sorry, new to this, any helpful links on what metr is?

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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> First, let’s establish our benchmark: job postings dropped 8% in 2025 compared to the same period in 2024. Indeed reported a 7.3% year-over-year decline for US jobs recently, so this was a good sanity check, and told me that my data most likely was comprehensive. Doesn't this also suggest that the job market is in such an unusual state, that any further analysis makes little or no sense?

Yeah, I was wondering something similar, especially because there was a huge surge in tech job hiring during the pandemic, and part of the story from 2020-2025 is the industry regressing back to the trendline before then. Some people say the rise of ChatGPT (in what, 2023?) is part of that but I'm not convinced.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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At the end of the day, "AI" is just another programming language, albeit one that is much more accessible to the layman. When using AI, you become a software engineer. So it stands to reason that software engineering jobs are strong. But what about pay? Elevator operator jobs have never been more prevalent, but increased accessibility to the layman pushed the price to zero.

> When using AI, you become a software engineer. When using a pen you become a poet ? lol Most people who code aren't software engineers, you certainly can't extend the definition to every AI users

> When using a pen you become a poet ?

No. By definition, a poet writes poems. Not all pen use leads to poems.

By definition, engineers build systems. What else can you do with code (and LLMs; same thing) other than build systems?

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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>180M jobs I doubt they have this data. I highly doubt they have this data.

They probably have this data. But the data is most definitely heavily polluted: Fake job listings, jobs posted to several sites, sites that aggregate job listings etc. This data is probably more polluted by AI then AI has influenced job openings itself.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Completely absent is quantity of jobs. If e.g. ml engineer job postings go +40% from 200 to 280 and writer job postings go -50% (over two years) from 20000 to 10000, then we have a better idea of the impact. Without those data this report isn’t really quantifying impact on “180M jobs.”

Also decline in Security engineer by 0.35% doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Shouldn't it be increasing due to increased demand for security in all ai integrations?

From what I can see, being closer than the average engineer to the space (but not an expert on my own), a few things are happening:

* Engineers are being pushed for ownership of security more directly. You still need someone on the team to guide and support them, but they're not going to be directly involved all of the time.

* Significant amounts of automation and centralized security. Supply chain management is a double edge sword. It does open up vulnerabilities, but you can simply pay one of the SaaS companies in the space to help with a lot of the heavy lifting.

* Commoditization/Platform-ification drastically reduces attack vectors.

OWASP has a nice comparison from over the years: https://github.com/OWASP/Top10/blob/master/2021-2003_Compari...

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> When using AI, you become a software engineer. When using a pen you become a poet ? lol Most people who code aren't software engineers, you certainly can't extend the definition to every AI users

> When using a pen you become a poet ? No. By definition, a poet writes poems. Not all pen use leads to poems. By definition, engineers build systems. What else can you do with code (and LLMs; same thing) other than build systems?

You can make a lot of slop of all different sorts with LLMs. That has very little in common with building systems.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Completely absent is quantity of jobs. If e.g. ml engineer job postings go +40% from 200 to 280 and writer job postings go -50% (over two years) from 20000 to 10000, then we have a better idea of the impact. Without those data this report isn’t really quantifying impact on “180M jobs.”

Also decline in Security engineer by 0.35% doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Shouldn't it be increasing due to increased demand for security in all ai integrations?

Bold of you to assume there is any demand for security in AI integrations. It's like 90s web browsers, everyone's running random MCP servers that do god knows what.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Also decline in Security engineer by 0.35% doesn't make sense by conventional wisdom. Shouldn't it be increasing due to increased demand for security in all ai integrations?

Most companies don’t care about security beyond window dressing and getting whatever certification required to close deals. Time for budget cuts? Cut the Security team!

Since most of what these teams do is box-checking for these certifications, it's true.

Security is a process. It's not a constellation of products or certifications.

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