Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA • Hacker News Board

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by bpodgursky » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:12 PM UTC

braincat31415 wrote: post #37

bpodgursky wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Türkiye is a highly effective arms manufacturer and is pretty aligned with NATO most of the time. They've been one of the more surprisingly strong supporters of Ukraine. They shot down a Russian jet a few years ago just to emphasize FAFO. Yes they have their specific regional interests they will emphasize even when they offend NATO sensibilities, like giving Armenia the finger in their war with Azerbaijan, but that i…

FAFO? Yet another moronic acronym of the day. Jeez...

This is a perfectly reasonable acronym to describe how Russia violates their neighbors' airspace just to push boundaries and be irritating.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by rayiner » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:13 PM UTC

miroljub wrote: post #39

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

We're laying the groundwork to globally search/replace "India" to "Bharat."

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by liaoliao2 » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:13 PM UTC

euroderf wrote: post #12

Forever playing both sides of the fence.

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Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by Maken » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:15 PM UTC

ramazanpolat wrote: post #46

Why is this in the "hacker" news?

The lack of rare earths could pretty much collapse the entire US' electronics industry.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by liaoliao2 » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:15 PM UTC

StephenSmith wrote: post #34

Every country has rare earth elements. Just google "X discovers rare earth" where X is your country of choice and you'll find articles about how they have huge deposits. The underlying problem is the processing. China has figured this out and has cornered the market. Until other countries figure out how to process these materials, China will be able to leverage this capability to their advantage.

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Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by jasonlotito » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:16 PM UTC

engcoach wrote: post #2

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You want to kick them out of NATO because the USA and Turkey currently do not have a trade agreement on rare earth elements? Because that's what you are claiming.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by ecshafer » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:21 PM UTC

theirchoice wrote: post #22

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Yeah how dare the US maintain maritime security across the world, pay for an outsized share of security, and give more aid than any other country on earth bringing unprecedented prosperity to the world bringing billions out of poverty. US should have sat back and let the communists win, that turned out so good.

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Post by School-Cotton » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:22 PM UTC

0xEF wrote: post #54

miroljub wrote: post #39

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Respect? If the people of that nation want their nation called something specific, cool. If they want to adopt/use the Anglicized version of their country's name, also cool. It's up to the people in that country, I guess. Plus, you know, gobble gobble.

> It's up to the people in that country, I guess

No, it is not. How English is spoken is determined collectively by the community of English-speakers, not by the Turkish government.

There is also the pretty major issue that native English speakers cannot even pronounce "Türkiye", nor easily type it. That's why use an English word for it, not a Turkish word -- because we speak English, not Turkish.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Post by ta9000 » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:23 PM UTC

SanjayMehta wrote: post #55

stronglikedan wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> US hasn't done much for its "allies", either, no matter the party in power. Except for paying for the lion's share of whatever "agreements" and "accords" are entered into. ::shrug::

That will come to an end in due course when the world moves away from the dollar. It's already started, will take a few more years.

Good luck with the Yuan.

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Post by notherhack » Mon, Nov 03, 2025, 3:24 PM UTC

engcoach wrote: post #20

saghm wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You want to modify the membership of a military treaty because of decision about who they sell metal to? There might be a convincing case to do what you're saying, but it's not at all obvious from the current context

Rare earths are vital for military equipment. This action is coming from a country that NATO has trusted with its best technology and they continue to flirt with both Russia and China, NATO's primary threats.

"Trusted with its best technology"

No. The US kicked NATO member Türkiye out of the F-35 program and denied them F-16 upgrades for a long time[1]. And the EU has denied Türkiye membership supposedly because they're not fully part of Europe (among other issues) while courting Georgia which is farther east. Türkiye is treated as a frenemy by the west. Good on them for making their own way.

[1] https://balkaneu.com/turkeys-f-16-deal-stalls-as-focus-shift...