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Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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You want to kick them out of NATO because the USA and Turkey have failed to come to a trade agreement on rare earth elements? Because that's what this is about. We have no agreement, so they aren't selling to us.

From Turkey:

> Responding to the allegations that 'rare earth elements are sold to the USA', Bayraktar said that there is absolutely no such thing. Bayraktar said, "The agreement we made and signed in America was also a nuclear-related agreement. If we had done it about rare earth elements, be sure, they would have declared it too, we would have declared it," he said.

That seems more like a rununciation of rumors and making it clear neither the US or Turkey have established a trade agreement for this.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

#52
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Türkiye is a highly effective arms manufacturer and is pretty aligned with NATO most of the time. They've been one of the more surprisingly strong supporters of Ukraine. They shot down a Russian jet a few years ago just to emphasize FAFO. Yes they have their specific regional interests they will emphasize even when they offend NATO sensibilities, like giving Armenia the finger in their war with Azerbaijan, but that i…

"when they offend NATO sensibilities, like giving Armenia the finger in their war" Or when they support islamists in Syria against the kurds and annect illegally parts of it. Who cares about those things nowdays anyway. But if we want NATO to not just be a military force, but something something freedom and human rights, maybe we should care more about it.

Who has ever wanted that?

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

#53

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Yeah, I'm from Turkey and it's really annoying for me to use a keyboard shortcuts to select "Türkiye" from dropdowns using year old "T", "U", "R" keys. Now in some websites it's "Turkey" and in some websites it's "Türkiye" I need to switch keyboard layouts just to select my country name.

Even though, website doesn't let me use my actual name since my name has non ascii characters so I need to try many times.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

#54

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Respect?

If the people of that nation want their nation called something specific, cool. If they want to adopt/use the Anglicized version of their country's name, also cool. It's up to the people in that country, I guess.

Plus, you know, gobble gobble.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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> US hasn't done much for its "allies", either, no matter the party in power. Except for paying for the lion's share of whatever "agreements" and "accords" are entered into. ::shrug::

That will come to an end in due course when the world moves away from the dollar.

It's already started, will take a few more years.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Do we?

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?geo=US&q=T%C3%BCrki... (US)

https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=T%C3%BCrkiye,Turk... (global)

Some noise in the global trend recently (any guesses?) but does not seem like a huge adjustment.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Because they want to be known as Türkiye and have been actively requesting. The United Nations officially agreed to recognize the country's new name in 2022.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

#58

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

You don't want to make the Sultan mad. If he gets mad, he won't sell you rare earths.

All jokes aside, I'm pretty sure both are still used. Non Turks still use Turkey.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

#59

Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

The Germany/Deutschland/Alemannia/Niemcy situation is utter garbage and its existence is a curse upon this world, not justification to do it to other countries, too.

Türkiye is Türkiye because it self-identifies as such.

Re: Türkiye will not sell rare earth elements to the USA

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Off-Topic: Why Türkiye? Why not keep using Turkey in English? I know they changed their name to Türkiye, but why would we change it in our languages? We still use Germany instead of Deutschland, India instead of Bharat, and Italy instead of Italia. So why make an exception for Turkey?

Because they want to be known as Türkiye and have been actively requesting. The United Nations officially agreed to recognize the country's new name in 2022.

The UN does not have the power to determine how the English language is spoken and written.
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