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Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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For reference, 20 MB is three hundred and thirteen Commodores.

Sure, but what people leave out is that it’s mostly C and assembly. That just isn’t realistic anymore if you want a better developer experience that leads to faster feature rollout, better security, and better stabilty.

This is like when people reminisce about the performance of windows 95 and its apps while forgetting about getting a blue screen of death every other hour.

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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post #23
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NextCloud does feel slow. What I want is not only a cloud service that does lots of common tasks, but it also should do it lightly and simply. I'm extremely tempted to write a lightweight alternative. I'm thinking sourcehut [1] vs GitHub. [1] https://sourcehut.org/

Just compare comparable products. Nextcloud is an old product that inherit from Owncloud developed in php since 2010. It has extensibility at its core through the thousands of extensions available. So yaaay compare it with source hut ...

Aren't you just confirming the parent that Nextcloud is the big, feature-rich behemoth like Github?

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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post #31

nextcloud just feels abandoned, even if it isn't of course. maybe paying customers are getting a different/updated/tuned version of it. maybe not. but the only thing that keeps me using it is there isn't any real selfhosted alternatives. why is it slow? if you just blink or take a breath, it touches the database. years ago i've tried to optimise it a bit and noticed that there are horrible amount of DB transactions t…

I'm not sure why you feel like it is abandoned. There is a steady release cadence and the changelog[0] clearly shows that much is being worked on.

[0]: https://nextcloud.com/changelog/#latest32

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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post #23
post #15

NextCloud does feel slow. What I want is not only a cloud service that does lots of common tasks, but it also should do it lightly and simply. I'm extremely tempted to write a lightweight alternative. I'm thinking sourcehut [1] vs GitHub. [1] https://sourcehut.org/

Just compare comparable products. Nextcloud is an old product that inherit from Owncloud developed in php since 2010. It has extensibility at its core through the thousands of extensions available. So yaaay compare it with source hut ...

> Just compare comparable products.

> So yaaay compare it with source hut ...

I'm not saying that sourcehut is the same in any way, but I want the difference between GitHub and sourcehut to be the difference between NextCloud and alternative.

> Nextcloud is an old product that inherit from Owncloud developed in php since 2010.

Tough situation to be in, I don't envy it.

> It has extensibility at its core through the thousands of extensions available.

Sure, but I think for some limited use cases, something better could be imagined.

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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On the same note a jira ticket as configured where I work the entire page is 42mb. And I use ad blockers so I already skip the page counting stuff

Wow, that's a lot. Our local installation zero cache request (to not suffer their slooooow cloud):

82 / 86 requests 1,694 kB / 1,754 kB transferred 6,220 kB / 6,281 kB resources Finish: 11.73 s DOMContentLoaded: 1.07 s Load: 1.26 s

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

#46
post #9

For reference, 20 MB is three hundred and thirteen Commodores.

The complete Doom 2, including all graphics, maps, music and sound effects, shipped on 4 floppies, totalling 5.76MB.

The original Doom 2 ran 64,000 pixels (320x200). 4k UHD monitors now show 8.3 million pixels.

YMMV.

Of course, Doom 2 is full of Carmack shenanigans to squeeze every possible ounce of performance out of every byte, written in hand optimized C and assembly. Nextcloud is delivered in UTF-8 text, in a high level scripting language, entirely unoptimized with lots of low hanging fruit for improvement.

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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I'm still setting up my own home server, adding one functionality at a time. I wanted to like Nextcloud but it's just too bloated. Radicale is a good calendar replacement. I'd rather have single-function apps at this point.

Any good file syncing/drive replacements? My Synology exists pretty much because Synology Drives works so well syncing Mac and iOS.

rsync, ftp, and smb have all existed for decades and work very well on spotty, slow connections (maybe not smb) and are very, very small utilities.

Re: Why Nextcloud feels slow to use

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post #27

I would love to like Nextcloud, it's pretty great that it does exist. Just that makes it better than... well everything else I haven't found. What frustrates me is that it looks like it works, but once in a while it breaks in a way that is pretty much irreparable (or at least not in a practical way). I want to run an iOS/Android app that backs up images on my server. I tried the iOS app and when it works, it's cool.…

For your specific use case of photos, Immich is the front runner and a much better experience. Sadly for the general Dropbox replacement I haven't found anything either.

I'd say Ente-photo is at least as good if not better than Immich.

https://github.com/ente-io/ente

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