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I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by dylan604 »

9rx wrote: post #4
kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

At the end of the day, "AI" is just another programming language, albeit one that is much more accessible to the layman. When using AI, you become a software engineer. So it stands to reason that software engineering jobs are strong. But what about pay? Elevator operator jobs have never been more prevalent, but increased accessibility to the layman pushed the price to zero.

> When using AI, you become a software engineer.

No. You do not. It may make you a developer, at best. I don't even call my self a software engineer, because I'm not. I'm a self taught coder that has spent 25+ years gaining experience, but I've never graduated from a school with any kind on engineering degree. I started CSE way back in the 90s, but stopped because life got in the way.

Maybe you're joking, but you just know people actually feel this way. They have no idea the difference of a coder and an SWE, and flippant comments don't help

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by saghm »

kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

It's funny, almost every conversation I have about the fact that I work as a software engineer with new people I meet nowadays seems to include them asking if I'm worried about AI stealing my job. Maybe it's something that people ask everyone nowadays regardless of what industry they work in, but at least as far as I can tell, the type of work I do doesn't seem in any apparent danger of being replaced by AI any time soon.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by Simulacra »

ramon156 wrote: post #9

Such an interesting thing! I wonder why mobile engineer is down 5%. Maybe companies are moving to React Native / Flutter / Tauri / Electron ? Maybe Apps are less of a priority now? I'm not familiar in this industry so someone help me out here

It depends on a lot of things, a lot of mobile development has shifted overseas, and this report only focuses on US jobs. I can't tell if this is from domestic AI, or outsourcing that uses AI.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by jillesvangurp »

I've been getting lots of value out of AI coding tools; especially in the last few months. My assessment is that this will lead to more work to do, not less. It's not a zero sum game. More of what I do is baby sitting AIs. But together we do more than me with my team before. It will reflect in my hiring decisions as well. I want people that can do this responsibly (are able to tell good from bad code, are able to think for themselves, are able to get stuff done).

My observation so far is that micromanaging AIs still sucks

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by tppiotrowski »

ramon156 wrote: post #9

Such an interesting thing! I wonder why mobile engineer is down 5%. Maybe companies are moving to React Native / Flutter / Tauri / Electron ? Maybe Apps are less of a priority now? I'm not familiar in this industry so someone help me out here

My experience using Claude code is that it's excellent at React/React Native and because apps are mostly a View layer the consequences of bad "vibes" are less far reaching.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by 9rx »

dylan604 wrote: post #11
9rx wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At the end of the day, "AI" is just another programming language, albeit one that is much more accessible to the layman. When using AI, you become a software engineer. So it stands to reason that software engineering jobs are strong. But what about pay? Elevator operator jobs have never been more prevalent, but increased accessibility to the layman pushed the price to zero.

> When using AI, you become a software engineer. No. You do not. It may make you a developer, at best. I don't even call my self a software engineer, because I'm not. I'm a self taught coder that has spent 25+ years gaining experience, but I've never graduated from a school with any kind on engineering degree. I started CSE way back in the 90s, but stopped because life got in the way. Maybe you're joking, but you jus…

> but I've never graduated from a school with any kind on engineering degree.

So? Per the dictionary, engineer is clearly defined as: A person who designs, builds, or maintains machines, structures, or systems. There is no mention of school or having an engineering degree.

It has always been a bit debatable if software fits into machine, structure, or system, granted, but we generally have come to agree that it does. And per the context of discussion, we've already established that it does for the sake of discussion. On that understanding, designing/building/maintaining a system in "LLM code" instead of C++ code is fundamentally no different.

You're likely confusing engineer with Professional Engineer™, but that's something else entirely. That obviously has nothing to do with anything that we're talking about here.

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by eMPee584 »

9rx wrote: post #4
kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

At the end of the day, "AI" is just another programming language, albeit one that is much more accessible to the layman. When using AI, you become a software engineer. So it stands to reason that software engineering jobs are strong. But what about pay? Elevator operator jobs have never been more prevalent, but increased accessibility to the layman pushed the price to zero.

At the end of this day.. and of the next. But at some point, the tool will "suddenly" turn into a versatile agent, and that time might be a lot sooner than most expect (c.f. "exponential growth surprise factor"...)

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by lm28469 »

9rx wrote: post #4
kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

At the end of the day, "AI" is just another programming language, albeit one that is much more accessible to the layman. When using AI, you become a software engineer. So it stands to reason that software engineering jobs are strong. But what about pay? Elevator operator jobs have never been more prevalent, but increased accessibility to the layman pushed the price to zero.

> When using AI, you become a software engineer.

When using a pen you become a poet ? lol

Most people who code aren't software engineers, you certainly can't extend the definition to every AI users

Re: I analyzed 180M jobs to see what jobs AI is replacing today

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Post by philipwhiuk »

saghm wrote: post #12
kode95 wrote: post #2

I found this interesting: "Still, despite all the hype about how AI coding tools will replace software engineers, software engineering is still one of the most secure jobs you can have today, relative to most other white-collar jobs."

It's funny, almost every conversation I have about the fact that I work as a software engineer with new people I meet nowadays seems to include them asking if I'm worried about AI stealing my job. Maybe it's something that people ask everyone nowadays regardless of what industry they work in, but at least as far as I can tell, the type of work I do doesn't seem in any apparent danger of being replaced by AI any time…

I assume that they think SWEs have a better grasp on it than non-tech folk.
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