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Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by ThomPete » Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 8:22 AM UTC

pj wrote: post #17

ThomPete wrote: post #15

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don't know what they did to you but apparently you seem pissed at them for some reason. It's just software mate. You are welcome to find alternatives and no google has nothing even close to this. No one really has when you look at it from a holistic point of view, which I would normally recommend.

The holistic view is exactly why Adobe Air is bad. It's not standard and it limits accessibility.

So does Firefox plugins, I don't see anyone leeching out against that. It's a weird puritan view.

Flash is as standard as you can get and air is just an extension off that allowing you to do more stuff off line.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by pj » Fri, Jan 30, 2009, 5:08 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #21

pj wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The holistic view is exactly why Adobe Air is bad. It's not standard and it limits accessibility.

So does Firefox plugins, I don't see anyone leeching out against that. It's a weird puritan view. Flash is as standard as you can get and air is just an extension off that allowing you to do more stuff off line.

Flash is not as standard as you can get.

The web standards are HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. Flash is neither of those. The specification is not controlled by a governing body. It is controlled by one company.

Talking about Firefox plugins is straw man, has nothing to do with this conversation and I don't know any websites that require a Firefox plugin to work correctly. If they exist, I don't use them.

Re: Adobe Air surpasses 100 Million installations

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Post by ThomPete » Sat, Jan 31, 2009, 2:49 AM UTC

pj wrote: post #22

ThomPete wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So does Firefox plugins, I don't see anyone leeching out against that. It's a weird puritan view. Flash is as standard as you can get and air is just an extension off that allowing you to do more stuff off line.

Flash is not as standard as you can get. The web standards are HTML, CSS, and JavaScript. Flash is neither of those. The specification is not controlled by a governing body. It is controlled by one company. Talking about Firefox plugins is straw man, has nothing to do with this conversation and I don't know any websites that require a Firefox plugin to work correctly. If they exist, I don't use them.

saying that flash is not a de facto standard is surely missing the big picture on this. Sorry but what would you call the standard for showing video if not flash? What would you call the standard for doing animation or another other sort of rich manipulation.

Just because it's not open does not mean that it's not a standard.