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SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by ho_schi »

SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat.

After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of others, without official support? That is calling for problems.

And to make everything worse Jolla started a cooperation with Russia in 2015. According to Wikipedia they quit it in 2021.

Hint about compatibility and APIs

Never try to be compatible to an environment which doesn’t want to maintain interoperability with you.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

#12

Post by rzerowan »

Funnily enough the only viable deployment was AuroraOS in Russia , which they cut ties with after the war started (pretty shortsighted IMO) as the equivalent US ops merely paused their operations with options for future return. I think Google only stopped monetization of play store from Visa/MC CC ban , while maintianing their operations there. Meanwhile the sailfish guys set their largest successful deployment on fire with no recourse for reapprochment once the peace returns. As im thinking the RU market would be drifting more towards Chines tech ala HarmonyOS etc if they want alternatives to Android/IOS.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by indolering »

panzi wrote: post #2

That still exists? When I first heard of it many many years ago I had hopes for it. Never heard of it again. I see it is still on Qt5.

My understanding is that it met some government requirements that Android did not. Niche for sure but useful in some contexts.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by mempko »

ho_schi wrote: post #11

SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…

The android support improved a lot such that all the apps I used worked there.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by throwuxiytayq »

rzerowan wrote: post #12

Funnily enough the only viable deployment was AuroraOS in Russia , which they cut ties with after the war started (pretty shortsighted IMO) as the equivalent US ops merely paused their operations with options for future return. I think Google only stopped monetization of play store from Visa/MC CC ban , while maintianing their operations there. Meanwhile the sailfish guys set their largest successful deployment on fi…

Don’t be silly, nobody wants that rep.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by BoredPositron »

I am not a fan anymore I used it for over a year on a XPERIA XA2. It's usable but barely so. The Android layer usually craps out with heavier apps or crawls to a halt. Most of the native apps are really basic I would compare them to early Windows Phone apps in functionality and UX. The UX itself is an odd mix of really intuitive and absolute horrible. It seems like they are missing focus and the felt development stalled for some years now. I hope plasma or gnome get more momentum because this isn't a viable alternative for 90% of smartphone users. Meego was better and I don't understand why they pivoted in the direction they are going now. It's certainly opinionated.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by rzerowan »

throwuxiytayq wrote: post #16
rzerowan wrote: post #12

Funnily enough the only viable deployment was AuroraOS in Russia , which they cut ties with after the war started (pretty shortsighted IMO) as the equivalent US ops merely paused their operations with options for future return. I think Google only stopped monetization of play store from Visa/MC CC ban , while maintianing their operations there. Meanwhile the sailfish guys set their largest successful deployment on fi…

Don’t be silly, nobody wants that rep.

'In Europe' , as noted American ios/androis and their stores still work .At a reduced capacity yeah , but ready to restore links when the time comes around.Ditto for all other major brands (US) even though they arent issuing press releases. From a purely biz perspective they could have gone 'yeah were pausing until blah blah ..' instead of salting the earth on one of their largest/succeesful deployments.

Re: SailfishOS: A Linux-based European alternative to dominant mobile OSes

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Post by pfix »

ho_schi wrote: post #11

SailfishOS and the Jolla One were good (awesome usability) But the integration of Android was a horribly failure. It is like WINE, half working applications preventing native ports of quality. I left the boat. After that Jolla failed with the tablet. Then they didn’t deliver a successor device for Jolla One and provided SailfishOS only as aftermarket OS. You remember the Android problem from above? The hardware of ot…

Funny. This is the opposite of what https://blog.hiler.eu/win32-the-only-stable-abi/ states :D

And there's a lot going on with Proton and the Steam Deck, so I don't think this is a valid argument.

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