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A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

#31
> My vision of the hack is to distribute a verified loader apk, which in turn dynamically loads any apk the user wants. A user obtains the loader apk once and loads apps without installing as much as they want.

And a day after you release, Google will say "Oh no you don't" and unverify your app, preventing it from being installed or run. Which is you know, kind of the point of this maneuver.

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

#32

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That very much depends on the country, many require ID.

You can use any country's SIM card in any other country, regardless of its registration status.

… if you have roaming coverage.

And even in that case, doing this for a long period of time violates most roaming policies

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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I suspect it's also a defense against antitrust law suits - lock in was how they got sued for things circa Internet Explorer. Frankly they should still be getting sued for the way Edge and Cortana are bundled.

Then Apple should get sued for bundling Safari, and also for forcing all browser engines on iOS to use Safari - which is way worse than anything Microsoft ever did with IE.

Apple does not have a platform monopoly on smartphones the way Microsoft did on PCs.

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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You can use any country's SIM card in any other country, regardless of its registration status.

… if you have roaming coverage. And even in that case, doing this for a long period of time violates most roaming policies

There's eu(maybe even EEA?) wide free roaming legally mandated since I think 2017 or so? But it's not a permanent solution, your second paragraph still holds true.

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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While it is technically feasible, it is not a good idea to try and find a technical solution to a people/organisation problem. Do not accept the premise of assholes. I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork. Maybe under some organisation similar to NL Labs. --- edit --- Furthermore, the need for a trustworthy binary to be auditable to a certain hash or something would make banning this a simple task…

> I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork. How are things in the EU on whether it's legal to buy a SIM card without showing ID?

In many EU countries you can walk into many a supermarket or phone-store and just buy a simcard with cash without questions asked.

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

#38
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This will not work because the goal of android developer verification is to prevent running Google-sanctioned code. If you actually tried to publish this, Google will revoke the signature on the loader APK.

Ah yes sanctioned. A word that has two opposite meanings.

Contronyms are awesome, yet people are nonplussed.

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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post #3

While it is technically feasible, it is not a good idea to try and find a technical solution to a people/organisation problem. Do not accept the premise of assholes. I hope we can get the EU to fund a truly open Android Fork. Maybe under some organisation similar to NL Labs. --- edit --- Furthermore, the need for a trustworthy binary to be auditable to a certain hash or something would make banning this a simple task…

What's wrong with lineage?

Re: A theoretical way to circumvent Android developer verification

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can use any country's SIM card in any other country, regardless of its registration status.

… if you have roaming coverage. And even in that case, doing this for a long period of time violates most roaming policies

The only thing that happens is your data becomes a lot more expensive, the card still continues to work as normal. I've not lived in Poland for over 15 years now, and I still have a polish SIM card that I use almost daily - the only thing that I've lost due to roaming long term is cheap data packs, I can still call and text as normal from my monthly allowance.
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