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Grokipedia and the coup against reality

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Re: Grokipedia and the coup against reality

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Yaxley-Lennon has various convictions. Some of these including for libel against specific muslim children; some for contempt of court interfering with the fairness of trials thus risking the release of people who were ultimately convicted; and some where his libel lead to his supporters committing violence against muslims. (Keeping the [num]s in the quotations, those are the only citations that really matter). On 10…

> libel against specific muslim children One child. Jamal Hijazi. > Regarding his libel that harmed a child The interview with the girl Jamal Hijazi hit in her spine with a hockey stick starts at 21:49, and is followed by discussions with staff at the school, a student he spat at, other staff discussing him knocking a kid out by throwing him against a wall, school records of him bringing a knife and screwdriver to sc…

> https://youtu.be/h0z7rVP2glk

To quote the video description:

  “Silenced” is a documentary that was originally made by Tommy Robinson."
You want to treat a video created and edited by the person who lost a libel case in this specific matter, as a valid source of truth about the matters of fact in this specific matter? Where the film itself constitutes a contempt of court for repeating a libel he had been found guilty of, resulting in him being sentenced to 18 months in prison?

That is the "evidence" you bring?

I wouldn't even trust that any video meeting this description accurately represents the views of someone who is literally filmed speaking in it.

To quote another source:

  But the founder of the English Defence League has been told he will face legal action after reposting a screenshot of a message from a mother claiming the youngster had bullied her daughter.

  The mother later posted a message on Robinson’s page denying it was Jamal who had attacked her daughter.
- https://web.archive.org/web/20181202204147/https://www.indep...

> Good. Why aren’t you?

The assorted list of crimes I just gave you, some of which threatened to set some rapists free without conviction.

Also some others I didn't mention, like libelling a journalist's partner by calling them a paedophile, something he later admitted was false. The journalist got this treatment from him after she had asked for his comment for a story she was writing about allegations that he had misused financial donations from his supporters. You know, silencing journalism, just like he accused the judicial system of doing, except he admitted using dishonesty to try to get silence, and was also seen to be dishonest with the libellous statements.

Anyway, here's what he and his former associates have to say on the matter of misused donations: https://web.archive.org/web/20210317214553/https://www.indep...

Lots of examples of him being less than honest — mortgage fraud, using someone else's passport, listing "Ireland" on his Irish passport — so why do you trust his take on anything?

Re: Grokipedia and the coup against reality

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While I broadly agree with you, Russia is not a useful example for this point: the failures as a state to be a good place for normal people to live in are not the important failures, instead look specifically at the oligarchs within it and the power they wield, the money they've made.

Those oligarchs could have, and be, making a lot more money if they integrated with the global economy and participated as a good contributing member. It's a failure of lost opportunity for the oligarchs too. Authoritarian regimes have a much lower upper-limit that holds everyone and everything back

I don't think so, they would be crushed and bought out by the bigger American Oligarchs. By liting their influence, their local monopoly remains unbeatable.

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That's a pretty broad definition of Fascism you have there. By your reckoning Hitler and the Manhattan Institute are broadly equivalent.

Not really. What other political tendencies perform violent colonisation at home? And, well, yeah, they have a lot of similarities. They both agree on things like 'Arbeit macht Frei', extremely violent punishment of petty crime and industrial futurism regarding e.g. unrestrained extractive energy exploitation and so on. It's harder to figure out but it seems to me that the Manhattan Institute agrees with Hitler on th…

You seem like a nice chap but I think our views on politics are fundamentally different and I don't think we could ever find common ground.

Re: Grokipedia and the coup against reality

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> libel against specific muslim children One child. Jamal Hijazi. > Regarding his libel that harmed a child The interview with the girl Jamal Hijazi hit in her spine with a hockey stick starts at 21:49, and is followed by discussions with staff at the school, a student he spat at, other staff discussing him knocking a kid out by throwing him against a wall, school records of him bringing a knife and screwdriver to sc…

> https://youtu.be/h0z7rVP2glk To quote the video description: “Silenced” is a documentary that was originally made by Tommy Robinson." You want to treat a video created and edited by the person who lost a libel case in this specific matter, as a valid source of truth about the matters of fact in this specific matter? Where the film itself constitutes a contempt of court for repeating a libel he had been found guilty…

> You want to treat a video created and edited by the person who lost a libel case in this specific matter, as a valid source of truth about the matters of fact in this specific matter?

As I said, the documentary contains the interview with the girl Jamal Hijazi hit in her spine with a hockey stick starts at 21:49, and is followed by discussions with staff at the school, a student he spat at, other staff discussing him knocking a kid out by throwing him against a wall, school records of him bringing a knife and screwdriver to school, photos of the other girl he hit from text messages with the girl’s mother, an interview with the head teacher of the time about Jamal Hijazi bullying other children.

You don't have to believe Robinson, you can believe everyone else. I haven't read the rest of your comment as you haven't bothered to read mine, so there's little point.

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