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My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by PlunderBunny »

lisbbb wrote: post #85

I couldn't really trust the author of the review after he established his preference for "quiet computers" having no cooling slots or whatever he called them. Okay, fine, you're placing aesthetics above actual performance, then. The Pro laptops are the only ones viable for any really hardcore work because if you push the Air too hard it is going to just slow down in order to stay cool and that's not what you want if…

>The thing that mostly irks me about Apple these days is soldered in RAM and non-upgradeable storage.

Isn't the 'soldered-in' RAM and storage fundamental to the M-series architecture? It's not like there's a board with individual chips sitting in it for the RAM and storage, that could potentially have been 'popped out' if they weren't soldered in. It's all one giant 'chip' now.

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by Keyframe »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #28
rottencupcakes wrote: post #16

It's classic Apple to spend over a decade insisting that that glossy screens were the best option, and then to eventually roll out a matte screen as a "premium" feature with a bunch of marketing around it.

Historically, traditional matte screen finishes exhibited poor optical qualities by scattering ambient light, which tended to wash out colors. This scattering process also affected the light from individual pixels, causing it to refract into neighboring pixels. This reduced overall image quality and caused pixel-fine details, such as small text, to appear smeary on high-density LCDs. In contrast, well-designed glossy…

You make it sound like what they, according to you, tried to do was a success. One look at nano texture screen is enough for a resounding no.

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by IshKebab »

brulard wrote: post #88
IshKebab wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it actually would be quite near the top, in terms of ranking. Most hobbies are a lot cheaper. Of course, not near the top in terms of money because there are a few hobbies that cost vastly more.

What do you mean "in terms of ranking" vs "in terms of money"?

I mean if you ranked all the hobbies in terms of cost, casually spending $3k on a laptop would be near the top of the list. But there are a small number of hobbies that are vastly more expensive.

The distribution is highly skewed. Like wealth. The 99th percentile are near the top in rank (by definition) but nowhere near the top in absolute terms.

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by brailsafe »

asdff wrote: post #82
criddell wrote: post #50

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If you are going to start making a list of expensive hobbies, $3K for a computer isn't going to be anywhere near the top of the list.

The type of person shelling out 3k for a computer is not running it until the wheels come off.

What does the purchase price have to do with it? Seems like it would entirely depend on circumstances and constraints, rather than cost, how long someone would run something

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by dan_can_code »

filoleg wrote: post #25
whycome wrote: post #22

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There are so many base features that are inexplicably relegated to 3rd party apps. Like a better finder experience. Or keeping screen on. Or NTFS writing.

> There are so many base features that are inexplicably relegated to 3rd party apps. > Like a better finder experience. > Or keeping screen on. Do you mind linking or naming which tools you use for those 2 purposes? Asking out of pure curiosity, as for keeping the screen on, I just use `caffeinate -imdsu` in the terminal. Previously used Amphetamine, but I ended up having some minor issues with it, and I didn't need…

Not op but raycast is for sure an improvement on the stock finder.

https://www.raycast.com/

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by coldtea »

asdff wrote: post #71
LeoPanthera wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Historically, traditional matte screen finishes exhibited poor optical qualities by scattering ambient light, which tended to wash out colors. This scattering process also affected the light from individual pixels, causing it to refract into neighboring pixels. This reduced overall image quality and caused pixel-fine details, such as small text, to appear smeary on high-density LCDs. In contrast, well-designed glossy…

I used to have a 2006 macbook pro with the matte screen. It was glorious. None of these issues were present or really noticeable. Maybe you'd notice it in lab setting but not irl. Kind of like 120hz and 4k; just useless to most peoples eyes at the distances people actually use these devices. I've only owned matte external monitors as well and again, no issues there. The glossy era macbooks otoh have been a disaster i…

>I used to have a 2006 macbook pro with the matte screen. It was glorious. None of these issues were present or really noticeable.

They were absolutely noticable. Contrast was crap. I immediately went with glossy with my next MBP around that same period.

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by jonaustin »

inference-god wrote: post #38
whycome wrote: post #22

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There are so many base features that are inexplicably relegated to 3rd party apps. Like a better finder experience. Or keeping screen on. Or NTFS writing.

What's crazy is that Vivid app...costs money!

Looks like there's an OSS app that does basically the same thing: https://github.com/starkdmi/BrightXDR

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by dontlaugh »

daymanstep wrote: post #83
asdff wrote: post #71

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I used to have a 2006 macbook pro with the matte screen. It was glorious. None of these issues were present or really noticeable. Maybe you'd notice it in lab setting but not irl. Kind of like 120hz and 4k; just useless to most peoples eyes at the distances people actually use these devices. I've only owned matte external monitors as well and again, no issues there. The glossy era macbooks otoh have been a disaster i…

120Hz is absolutely a noticeable improvement over 60Hz. I have a 60Hz iPhone and a 120Hz iPhone and the 60Hz one is just annoying to use. Everything feels so choppy.

4K too, at anything over 15” or so.

I’m always baffled people insist otherwise.

Re: My Impressions of the MacBook Pro M4

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Post by tomcam »

shuckles wrote: post #30
rottencupcakes wrote: post #16

It's classic Apple to spend over a decade insisting that that glossy screens were the best option, and then to eventually roll out a matte screen as a "premium" feature with a bunch of marketing around it.

It’s classic Apple commenter not know about Apple. They offered matte display upgrades to the MacBook Pro almost 20 years ago. The current glossy black display only became a product line wide choice with the retina displays in 2012, likely because they didn’t prioritize getting an appropriate matte glass finish on the retina screens due to low demand.

Downvoted for the unhelpful first sentence.
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