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we did. we called it the Hobby plan. we never said forever.
you answered this after someone just posted the wayback. what gives?
read the timestamps, i did not post it after the wayback.
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Were we supposed to just keep it up until we go out of business or something? Out of sheer duty. Like burn everything we built to the ground to keep the free tier going as long as possible? Endlessly indentured to provide a free service on the internet for people that will never pay us money so that the people that do pay us money can eventually have to move provider too because we are shutting down? I didn't enjoy d…
>I felt bad but I don't regret it at all. Sure, it sounds like a marketing mistake, and you're owning up to it not being sustainable. But you're burning trust with people before they even have a relationship with your company if you pretend it never happened. It's much better to say "Sorry non-customers, this wasn't sustainable. I hope this new approach will better serve us both in the hobby use case and still be sus…
i have said almost exactly this so many times since it happened
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#154Remember when they shafted the free plan, laid off some good people and redesigned their website to look like some garish notepad? Pepperidge Farm remembers...
I remember. It was a very painful moment for everyone involved. I still miss the people who aren't here anymore. I am not happy that it happened but I am also I am very glad to be at a profitable company. I get to work at a company that is growing sustainably surrounded by people I admire. I love our customers and I think in the long run people will root for a company that isn't just lighting money on fire at the alt…
I appreciate you’re responding personally and directly to people instead of running it through a corporate PR machine. That being said I’d also consider your tone, I have no doubt the topic pushes on a sore wound but the “I don’t care what you think” is probably not the attitude you want potential customers to stumble upon in the future.
I am not a customer and not in the market to be a customer anytime soon, I have no horse in this race, just an observation.
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#156I notice that PlanetScale has a Developer Educator position available. Has anyone sent that to Aaron Francis yet? He might be interested.
Haha people have sent it to me! I'm currently trying to make it on my own in the wide world though.
I never disagreed with the decision to lay people off to become profitable. That's part of the implicit agreement when you take employment in the US. You can quit whenever you want and they can fire you whenever they want! I knew that going in!
I agreed with it, but of course it stung. That's only natural!
Sam and I are all good though! To his immense credit he reached out to me directly a little while back to mend any hurt feelings, of which I had a few. We're friends. He even came on my podcast and we talked for over an hour like old buds.
I have a lot of feelings and sometimes they get hurt. Sam has a fiduciary responsibility to the company. Today PlanetScale is a going concern and I'm happy and doing great! All is well.
The podcast is good btw, y'all should listen!
PlanetScale Postgres with CEO Sam Lambert https://youtu.be/IB3mzON8Iyw
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Imagine laying off one of the most genuine, friendly developer evangelists of all time.
It was sad to say goodbye to Aaron yes. I am glad he and I are on good terms again. I have immense professional respect for him.
Thank you Sam.
For others, I wrote a longer response above!
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#158I want to like this so bad, but the free tier changes still haunt me. I ran a little hobby project for a while on it that helped junior developers find jobs. The work needed to switch from PlanetScale ultimately meant I just canned the project. Fairly or not, when I see PlanetScale, that’s what I think of. Seeing the CEO on here defending it as if they nailed the execution of it doesn’t help either.
I want to like it too. Though, I wonder with any cloud provider of databases: why? You’re basically giving your data to a 3rd-party to have access to and to be reliant on. You have a backup of your source, but I bet many don’t have local non-cloud backups of their databases, maybe because it’s too much data to do easily, and everyone assumes the provider’s backups will suffice. This is a main reason I think that more…
We've paid for Scaleway's managed Postgres for almost 4 years at my previous startup. Small businesses don't always want to be managing a database.
Re: PlanetScale Offering $5 Databases
#159I want to like this so bad, but the free tier changes still haunt me. I ran a little hobby project for a while on it that helped junior developers find jobs. The work needed to switch from PlanetScale ultimately meant I just canned the project. Fairly or not, when I see PlanetScale, that’s what I think of. Seeing the CEO on here defending it as if they nailed the execution of it doesn’t help either.
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> Either way I don't care what you remember or think. it does feel to me that one way to demonstrate that is to not get pissy on hackernews. i know you’re in founder mode or whatever but this comment is the thing i’m now going to remember you for
Yeah, $5 databases is something that maybe I would actually use for some hobby projects, but that one sentence just killed any interest that I had in ever giving this company my money.
Same! Unreal that he keeps digging the whole deeper and deeper. Apparently, he doesn't know how to either keep his mouth shut or humble himself to admit a mistake and ask for forgiveness to those they burned by saying 'free forever'.