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Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

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Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#21

sigh So the OIS actually does work as well as claimed, which boggles the mind why they felt they had to fake it in the ad.

Unless you're comparing it directly with another phone, it's hard to imagine any phone image stabilization looking good in a commercial.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#22
post #9

Not to give in to conspiracies of any sort, but these videos prove nothing. 1. Why are the zoom levels different? 2. I'm certain the HTC One X can shoot more decent videos than what we saw. 3. Are we dealing with equivalent bitrates? 4. Isn't Image Stabilization a post-processing solved problem? I mean, it's great to have it in real-time (after a google search, it seems all three do have the feature), but there's not…

More demos here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=c...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlT8qk2ZoGM&feature=playe...

http://wmpoweruser.com/see-nokia-lumia-920s-video-stabilizat...

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Lumia have wider field of view. 4. Today commercially available video post processing algorithms can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, because inframe stabilisation is still very slow for modern hardware. *Edited. 4 was "No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame."

>4. No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame. Apparently you haven't seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLJBfRzXIQ#t=0m57s

try doing it in a mobile device with 30 full hd frames per second... Still, it's pretty amazing, pity it isn't actually in CS7

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#24

If we're honest, this is hardly surprising. Before Nokia made it's commitment to Microsoft, they were a company at the forefront of phone technology, including their cameras. However, what this does actually do is beg the question of why they opted for Microsoft. I'm without a doubt in my mind that if they were making Androids right now, they'd be dominating.

Apparently, they approached Google, but they failed to provide the same incentives and special treatment to tide over the tough times that Microsoft did(Nokia gets at least a billion a year from MS for platform support).

Many more details here: http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/11_24/b42320567...

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#25

sigh So the OIS actually does work as well as claimed, which boggles the mind why they felt they had to fake it in the ad.

Because the phone is not ready yet. btw it's a test controlled by Nokia. I think we should wait until it's finally released before giving the final judgement.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#26

sigh So the OIS actually does work as well as claimed, which boggles the mind why they felt they had to fake it in the ad.

So maybe The Verge's whole freakout over it was completely unwarranted? Maybe Nokia knew what the effect of OIS would be when they made the ad -- after having done the R&D to develop the camera in the first place?

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#27
Regardless of zoom levels or other disadvantages, this is a honest comparison of true results you would get from each phone. It's a moot point to argue technicals you have no control over.

Overall, the 920 just seems way clearer, and objects have much sharper edges.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Lumia have wider field of view. 4. Today commercially available video post processing algorithms can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, because inframe stabilisation is still very slow for modern hardware. *Edited. 4 was "No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame."

>4. No, because post processing can only solve relative stabilisation between frames of video, it does not work within one frame. Apparently you haven't seen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLLJBfRzXIQ#t=0m57s

I actually read this paper last year... it's pretty impressive but still is not ready for mainstream. The speaker said that his friend was "lucky", but he was the lucky one to find a perfect example to show this off.

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#29
On one hand - the image stabilization on the Lumia appears to be great. However, the image quality on both the iPhone 5 & Galaxy S3 were much worse than I've experienced in day to day use. I've used both phones personally - and the video quality on the iPhone and GS3 is much better than what was shown (even if it's not "stable"). Any idea on why the quality on those was much lower than in real life?

Re: Actual OIS performance: Lumia 920 against iPhone 5, Galaxy S III, HTC One X

#30

On one hand - the image stabilization on the Lumia appears to be great. However, the image quality on both the iPhone 5 & Galaxy S3 were much worse than I've experienced in day to day use. I've used both phones personally - and the video quality on the iPhone and GS3 is much better than what was shown (even if it's not "stable"). Any idea on why the quality on those was much lower than in real life?

Were you walking while filming? He wouldn't be able to showcase the differences in image stabilization for each phone if he tried to stay as still as possible.
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