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Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by progmetaldev »

chasd00 wrote: post #450
jrodom wrote: post #226

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50% of sales? what do you think the gross margin is on average for each item sold?

It's Family Dollar, margin has to be almost nothing and sales per day is probably I go there daily because it's a nice 30min round trip walk and I wfh. I go up there to get a diet coke or something else just to get out of the house. It amazes me when i see a handwritten sign on the door "closed, system is down". I've gotten to know the cashiers so I asked and it's because the internet connection goes down all the tim…

Unfortunately they are largely corporate, which is how they can sell items for such a cheap price. The store manager probably has zero say in nearly anything. Even if they wanted to "break the rules," I doubt they could make use of your connection as a backup, but I've also worked for smaller companies that were able to sell internet access to individual locations like Denny's and various large hotels in the US. Being able to somehow share sales would be the difficult part, since all sales are reported back to corporate.

Good luck if you make this work for you, it would be exciting to hear about if you're able to get them to work with you.

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Post by dotancohen »

layer8 wrote: post #291
8cvor6j844qw_d6 wrote: post #78

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I'll be interested in the incident writeup since DNS is mentioned. It will be interesting in a way if it is similar to what happened at AWS.

DNS has both naming and cache invalidation, so no surprise it’s among the hardest things to get right. ;)

That's three of the hardest problems in CS ))

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Post by progmetaldev »

ElevenLathe wrote: post #235
ryandrake wrote: post #216

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You'd think any SeriousBusiness would have a backup way to take customers' money. This is the one thing you always want to be able to do: accept payment. If they made it so they can't do that, they deserve the hit to their revenue. People should just walk out of the store with the goods if they're not being charged. Why doesn't someone in the store at least have one of those manual kachunk-kachunk carbon copy card re…

The kachunk-kachunk credit card machines need raised digits on the cards, and I don't think most banks have been issuing those for years at this point. Mine have been smooth for at least 10 years.

My card tied to my main financial institution have the raised digits, but most cards you'd sign up for online now no longer have the raised digits (and often allow you to select art to appear on the card face).

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by arccy »

graemep wrote: post #222
taeric wrote: post #68

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I didn't realize AWS got a pass?

Have repeated outages lost them customers? has it lost them any money in any way? That is a pass.

customers like us are certainly looking at expanding from just multi region into instead being multi cloud...

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Post by progmetaldev »

Spooky23 wrote: post #410
ryandrake wrote: post #216

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You'd think any SeriousBusiness would have a backup way to take customers' money. This is the one thing you always want to be able to do: accept payment. If they made it so they can't do that, they deserve the hit to their revenue. People should just walk out of the store with the goods if they're not being charged. Why doesn't someone in the store at least have one of those manual kachunk-kachunk carbon copy card re…

It’s family dollar. They don’t care about customer satisfaction and the cost of reliability is cost. The stores are in the hood or middle of nowhere. The customers don’t have many options.

These stores appear everywhere, even in areas with high income. You'd be surprised, but often people with those high incomes shop for certain products at very low rates, and that's how they keep their savings. A good example is garbage bags. Most people don't care too much about the quality of their garbage bags, unless they rip on the way to the bin.

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Post by platevoltage »

mc32 wrote: post #507
conductr wrote: post #467

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Is voting there a one day only event? If not, I feel the solution to that particular problem is quite clear. There’s a million things that could go wrong causing you to miss something when you try to do it in a narrow time range (today after work before polls close) If it’s a multi day event, it’s probably that way for a reason. Partially the same as the solution to above.

If India can have voters vote and tally all the votes in one day, then so can everyone else. It’s the best way to avoid fraud and people going with whoever is ahead. I am sympathetic with emergency protocols for deadly pandemics, but for all else, in-person on a given day.

If it's not a national holiday where the vast majority of people don't have to work, and if there aren't polling places reasonably near every voting age citizen, it's voter suppression.

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Post by vanviegen »

Sleaker wrote: post #572
vanviegen wrote: post #500

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As a Dutchman, I have to go vote in person on a specific day. But to be honest: I really don't mind doing so. If you live in a town or city, there'll usually be multiple voting locations you can choose from within 10 minutes walking distance. I've never experienced waiting times more than a couple of minutes. Opening times are pretty good, from 7:30 til 21:00. The people there are friendly. What's not to like? (Excep…

Please lookup US voting poll overflow issues that come up every election cycle. Just because you experience a well streamlined process doesn't mean that it's the norm everywhere.

Oh, I know. I'm just saying it can be done properly on a single day. It is a pretty challenging and expensive logistical operation though.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by platevoltage »

barrenko wrote: post #471
foresterre wrote: post #464

It still surprises me how much essential services like public transport are completely reliant on cloud providers, and don't seem to have backups in place. Here in The Netherlands, almost all trains were first delayed significantly, and then cancelled for a few hours because of this, which had real impact because today is also the day we got to vote for the next parlement (I know some who can't get home in time befor…

> wouldn't put China or Russia above this

I wouldn't put Texas above this either.

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Post by dullcrisp »

hshdhdhehd wrote: post #549
hinkley wrote: post #490

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Voting days should be a national holiday.

In Australia there are so many places to vote, it is almost popping out to get milk level if convenience. (At least in urbia and suburbia) Just detour your dog walk slightly. Always at the weekend.

In the US getting milk involves driving multiple miles, finding parking, walking to the store, finding a shopping cart, finding the grocery department, navigating the aisles to the dairy section, finding the milk, waiting in line to check out, returning the cart if you’re courteous, and driving back. Could take an hour or so.
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