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China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Aren’t they bringing on incredible amounts of solar we could only dream about? Edit: for the downvoters https://gemini.google.com/app/6da2be1502b764f1

They're building an insane amount of nuclear. It's the only thing with a hope in a country where a "small" city has like 6 million people.

Are they?

They build 10x more solar power (total numbers compared, in percentages solar nearly tripled since 2021, nuclear had a 10% increase)

That seems more like a modest increase.

Honestly solar seems to have an exponential growth, nuclear linear at best.

Numbers from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electricity_sector_in_China

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

Chinese CO₂ emissions per capita are only about 60% as much as the USA, but in the past 25 years US per capita emissions have dropped by about a third and Chinese emissions per capita have almost tripled and are still rising rapidly. Considering that China is about 4 times as populous as the US, this is a huge problem for the world. (US emissions are also a huge problem; we all need for them to decrease very quickly.…

If they are still at 60% of USA unless your opinion is that Chinese people don't deserve air conditioning as much as Americans, you don't really have a point.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #78

This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

It is 8.89 China vs 14 according to https://www.worldometers.info/co2-emissions/co2-emissions-pe...

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Their emissions are the emissions of Western companies for whom they are doing manufacturing.

You should check the stats on that, it is not the case.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #76

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Their emissions are the emissions of Western companies for whom they are doing manufacturing.

The global economy is so China-dependent it doesn't even make sense to talk about an individual country's emissions profile unless we look at their imports.

There are import corrected CO2 emissions data you can check if you care. Tl;Dr it's not as big as you think it is.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #93

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Chinese CO₂ emissions per capita are only about 60% as much as the USA, but in the past 25 years US per capita emissions have dropped by about a third and Chinese emissions per capita have almost tripled and are still rising rapidly. Considering that China is about 4 times as populous as the US, this is a huge problem for the world. (US emissions are also a huge problem; we all need for them to decrease very quickly.…

If they are still at 60% of USA unless your opinion is that Chinese people don't deserve air conditioning as much as Americans, you don't really have a point.

Air conditioning is a relatively small part of global CO₂ emissions (3%); you should be more worried about heating.

I would expect air conditioning to also be among the easier energy uses to match with solar power as we go forward. Better building design and more efficient AC devices also make a huge difference.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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The same article says Russia is on 2nd place in reforestation. They do export timber and can export more, while increasing the share of sustainably managed forests. But export of Baikal fresh water? That’s fake news. Didn’t happen and won’t happen, unless you mean just some bottled water.

>The same article says Russia is on 2nd place in reforestation. Reforestation alone doesn't matter. What matters is total result of deforestation and reforestation. Russia reforests only about 1Mha/year : https://www.statista.com/statistics/1059300/russia-reforeste... while the total resulting loss is https://www.globalforestwatch.org/dashboards/country/RUS/?ca... "In 2020, Russia had 748 Mha of natural forest, exten…

Kind reminder - this is not reddit.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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If they are still at 60% of USA unless your opinion is that Chinese people don't deserve air conditioning as much as Americans, you don't really have a point.

Air conditioning is a relatively small part of global CO₂ emissions (3%); you should be more worried about heating. I would expect air conditioning to also be among the easier energy uses to match with solar power as we go forward. Better building design and more efficient AC devices also make a huge difference.

The point is about quality of life.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Their emissions are the emissions of Western companies for whom they are doing manufacturing.

> Their emissions are the emissions of Western companies for whom they are doing manufacturing.

Spoken like somebody that never stept a foot in China.

Sure, manufacturing for the West is part of it, but up to a few years ago, entering Beijing alone resulted in your naval cavities burning, the moment the airplane door opened.

Because of the usage from coal in households. It was only until a few years ago, that they banned the usage of wood/coal around the city. Outside the city, its coal everywhere for the normal class people who own their (country)house. Near other large cities its still very coal centric in the winter.

And the heating (communal for apartments) is mostly coal and while the coal may burn a bit more clean, and there is some filtration going on, its not a ton. So while open coal burning was reduced directly in the cities like Beijing, they simply moved a lot of it outside the 6th ring.

All those EV's ... great, no more gasoline/oil usage but ... wait, where does a lot of the electricity come from? Oeps...

But wait, all that crypto mining, where do you think that electricity comes from?

And now AI...

And the consumer goods.

Your statement ignore a large part of the coal consumption in the country.

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