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China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Ecologically speaking, the US is an absolute monster of a nightmare. The American carbon footprint is incredible.

It doesn't even come close to China. So if we're a nightmarish monster, I would hate to think what that makes China.

China is also deploying a ton a renewables though. Its the worlds leading producer of renewables. It’s a mistake to think they won’t ween off carbon where they can. The US has a president that said “drill baby drill”.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Well they're releasing 9.2ton CO2 per Capita, the US is releasing 13.5ton CO2 per Capita. And this while the US and the rest of the world is doing all of their manufacturing in China.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

This is propaganda. It's impossible to take this comment in good faith

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Their emissions are the emissions of Western companies for whom they are doing manufacturing.

AS if they don't consume the products themselves with their 1.2 billion people? My home country we are only 40 million. I am sure they consume much more than us.

So what? I'm sure I personally consume much less than your country of 40 million

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #78

This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

Great question. Let's indeed make it a point of discussion then. I'd like to know too.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #78

This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

Chinese CO₂ emissions per capita are only about 60% as much as the USA, but in the past 25 years US per capita emissions have dropped by about a third and Chinese emissions per capita have almost tripled and are still rising rapidly. Considering that China is about 4 times as populous as the US, this is a huge problem for the world. (US emissions are also a huge problem; we all need for them to decrease very quickly.)

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Aren’t they bringing on incredible amounts of solar we could only dream about? Edit: for the downvoters https://gemini.google.com/app/6da2be1502b764f1

And nuclear power - they have a large carbon deficit to make up so you shouldn't think of them as a green economy by any measure but... I think their strongest advantage is that there is a strong environmental pressure within the country and (while industrialists will be industrialists) there is no faction or movement within China that is dedicated to an anti-environmental agenda. There's a lot of work to be done and…

I wonder what kind of forest China is making? I was watching a really fascinating PBS documentary on Kanopy and it was talking about a lot of the planting efforts haven't been very good worldwide because planting a monoculture of trees doesn't do much and an old forest with tons of diversity stores twice as much carbon or more, which I thought was neat. So protecting existing forests is much better from a climate change standpoint. But either way, planting trees is better than nothing.

https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/15418989

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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post #78

This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Can you tell everyone what their per capita emission is? While you're at it, compare that with the US per capita emissions. Also let us know the accumulated emissions for China and US in the last 50 years. Thanks.

The earth doesn't give a shit about per capita, and us and eu are net reducing CO2 emissions since 2014 (even during trump I)

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Ecologically speaking, the US is an absolute monster of a nightmare. The American carbon footprint is incredible.

The US was positioned to leverage technological and economic advantages to embrace and profit massively off of next gen energy infrastructure. It is a tragedy of our era that anti-conservationalism was able to gain such a strong foothold in the body politic.

> It is a tragedy of our era that anti-conservationalism was able to gain such a strong foothold in the body politic.

It was the entirely predictable result of the policies we adopted. You don't get to be sloppy and shortsighted and then sail off into the sunset without consequences.

Kicking the industrial layers of the economic pyramid overseas and telling people to learn to code is what you do when you want a quick win and don't care if people will rightly hate you in a couple decades (IMO it's a miracle we're discussing this now and not in 2002).

Behaving that way isn't socially/politically sustainable and it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Yes, it is a massive sale of natural resources with huge discounts in exchange for the war support.

What "war support"? China trades with Russia, as it does with Ukraine. It doesn't support a side in particular.

There are a lot of thing which are clearly "war support", yet it would be a long and frankly pointless discussion, so i'll just refer to China's own words:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/04/europe/china-ukraine-eu-war-i...

"Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi told the European Union’s top diplomat that Beijing can’t accept Russia losing its war against Ukraine..."

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