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China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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So why are the forests growing faster

The TLDR is that they aren't. Global warming made some areas more hospitable to forests (warmer, more precipitation) and increased drought resistance counteracts some of the increased aridity in other ares: https://e360.yale.edu/features/greening-drylands-carbon-diox...

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Doesn't that put pressure on the cities itself especially the peripheral counties to pave way for housing and concrete roads?

Yes, and it's a good thing. Either way, you need to fit the needs of the same number of people. If they're in a dense city near everything they need, they use less space. Policies to limit urban sprawl just an expensive way to create more sprawl elsewhere - and roads to it.

Guess it depends on whether subsistence living is more resource intensive than urban living where on average urbanites own more possessions per capita.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Aren’t they bringing on incredible amounts of solar we could only dream about? Edit: for the downvoters https://gemini.google.com/app/6da2be1502b764f1

They're building an insane amount of nuclear. It's the only thing with a hope in a country where a "small" city has like 6 million people.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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Do you know why the mounds with half-moon shapes? Why is it more effective than simply digging a circular hole in the ground?

Same effect for half the work. Look up the videos on youtube, it's manual labor on very hard ground.

Why is it manual? If I had a mission to plant millions of trees, I am going to invest in a ditch witch.

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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I've been binging a lot of videos on things like rewilding and other approaches that can be used to restore landscapes. The Chinese have successfully executed a number of large scale projects over the decades. They started this early. Where other countries talked about doing things, the Chinese went ahead and did those things. One of their projects is allowing them to undertake infrastructure projects in the desert.…

This video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qwshdtijFY and his whole channel are a great binge for this topic.

No nonsense, an actual practitioner, and not very "YouTubey"

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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India too has been adding more green cover than ever. Higher CO2 in atmosphere leads to faster growth of forests. But more important factor is urbanization for India. As people move to cities the need to cut down trees goes down.

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This is opposite to everything I've ever read. A brief "greening" period was expected (and is now nearing its end) as climate change started taking off due specifically to this effect.

Edit: to clarify, I'm saying the greening thing already happened due to increases in CO2 levels (though it's possible this is due to heat and not CO2 itself, I guess?).

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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It's really hard to understate how deforestation ravaged China - their forestry cover declined by almost half during The Great Leap Forward as the CCCP at the time pushed hard to exploit the land. As a result, there were severe and noticeable problems with flooding and desertification. So starting in the 70s they invested heavily in the "Three-North Shelter Forest Program" (aka the Great Green Wall). Although, probab…

China was already extensively deforested in the Ming and Qing dynasties.

And Europe in the golden era. A squirrel could jump tree to tree from north Scotland al the way to the south. Timber, grazing, charcoal are the prime reasons why everything is gone

Re: China has added forest the size of Texas since 1990

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This sounds big but its less than the bare minimum required. Their coal emissions are insane. In my opinion its all anyone should be talking about when it comes to climate change.

Aren’t they bringing on incredible amounts of solar we could only dream about? Edit: for the downvoters https://gemini.google.com/app/6da2be1502b764f1

And nuclear power - they have a large carbon deficit to make up so you shouldn't think of them as a green economy by any measure but... I think their strongest advantage is that there is a strong environmental pressure within the country and (while industrialists will be industrialists) there is no faction or movement within China that is dedicated to an anti-environmental agenda.

There's a lot of work to be done and there's a lot of friction, corruption and economic pressures constraining that work but there seems to be a genuine desire to do that work.

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