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Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by Nemo_bis »

bob1029 wrote: post #362

For some reason an Azure outage does not faze me in the same way that an AWS outage does. I have never had much confidence in Azure as a cloud provider. The vertical integration of all the things for a Microsoft shop was initially very compelling. I was ready to fight that battle. But, this fantasy was quickly ruined by poor execution on Microsoft's part. They were able to convince me to move back to AWS by simply ma…

Microsoft is better at regulatory capture, so Azure has many customers in the public sector. So an Azure outage probably affects the public sector more (see example above about trains).

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by Sleaker »

vanviegen wrote: post #500
klardotsh wrote: post #478

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Washington State having full vote-by-mail (there is technically a layer of in-person voting as a fallback for those who need it for accessibility reasons or who missed the registration deadline) has spoiled me rotten, I couldn't imagine having to go back to synchronous on-site voting on a single day like I did in Illinois. Awful. Being able to fill my ballot at my leisure, at home, where I can have all the research m…

As a Dutchman, I have to go vote in person on a specific day. But to be honest: I really don't mind doing so. If you live in a town or city, there'll usually be multiple voting locations you can choose from within 10 minutes walking distance. I've never experienced waiting times more than a couple of minutes. Opening times are pretty good, from 7:30 til 21:00. The people there are friendly. What's not to like? (Excep…

Please lookup US voting poll overflow issues that come up every election cycle. Just because you experience a well streamlined process doesn't mean that it's the norm everywhere.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by oliyoung »

chrisgeleven wrote: post #384

"Front Door" has to be the worst product name for a CDN I've ever heard of. I used to work for a CDN too.

We should've never let marketing in the door honestly, all of the product names for the big three are awful.

Microsoft CDN

There, that's it. You're selling it to (hopefully) technical people

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by conductr »

iAMkenough wrote: post #552
conductr wrote: post #528

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We have early voting, nobody has to wait, they choose to wait

We're on year five of one of the two parties telling voters to not trust early voting. Their choice is because of the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt created by the propaganda they are fed. Here's the President of the United States on Sunday: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/1154418712892... "No mail-in or 'Early' Voting, Yes to Voter ID! Watch how totally dishonest the California Prop Vote is! Millions of…

That's all happening too, but it's honestly a different topic altogether. We have the ability to vote early. Whether you trust it or politicians are trying to undermine your trust in it, etc.... whole other can of worms

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by deathanatos »

anonymars wrote: post #283
MangoCoffee wrote: post #169

The Internet is supposed to be decentralized. The big three seem to have all the power now (Amazon, Microsoft, and Google) plus Cloudflare/Oracle. How did we get here? Is it because of scale? Going to market in minutes by using someone else's computers instead of building out your own, like co-location or dedicated servers, like back in the day.

Efficiency (aka cost) Resiliency/redundancy Pick your point on the scale

Maybe in a perfect world, or in a free market.

But the cloud compute market is basically centralized into 2.5 companies at this point. The point of paying companies like Azure here is that they've in theory centralized the knowledge and know-how of running multiple, distributed datacenters, so as to be resilient.

But that we keep seeing outages encompassing more than a failure domain, then it should be fair game for engineers / customers to ask "what am I paying for, again?"

Moreover, this seems to be a classic case of large barriers to entry (the huge capital costs associated with building out a datacenter) barring new entrants into the market, coupled with "nobody ever got fired for buying IBM" level thinking. Are outages like these truly factored into the napkin math that says externalizing this is worth it?

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by conductr »

gowld wrote: post #567
conductr wrote: post #536

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that an acceptable response? Honestly. You’re in the hospital, in pain, likely having a minor surgery, and having someone cast your vote for you is going to be on your mind too? Do you have your voting card in your pocket just in case this were to play out? That’s just ridiculous in my opinion. Makes me wonder how many well intentioned would be voters end up missing out each election cause shit happens and vot…

What percent of the electorate is incapacitated on voting day? What is the that group's deviation from the general voting population's preferences? What are the margins of the votes on those ballot questions?

Mild curiosity, no idea whether it would be statistically relevant but asking the question is the first step. If you knew the answer, you might want to extend the voting window even if it wouldn't effect an elections outcome it would be a quantified number of people excluded from the democratic process for simply having bad luck at the wrong time.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by bironran »

foresterre wrote: post #464

It still surprises me how much essential services like public transport are completely reliant on cloud providers, and don't seem to have backups in place. Here in The Netherlands, almost all trains were first delayed significantly, and then cancelled for a few hours because of this, which had real impact because today is also the day we got to vote for the next parlement (I know some who can't get home in time befor…

Yet... deploy on two clouds and you'll get tax payers scream at you for "wasting money" preparing for a black swan event. Can't have both, either reliability or lower cost.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Post by progmetaldev »

jjp wrote: post #201
mystcb wrote: post #33

Update 16:57 UTC: Azure Portal Access Issues Starting at approximately 16:00 UTC, we began experiencing Azure Front Door issues resulting in a loss of availability of some services. In addition. customers may experience issues accessing the Azure Portal. Customers can attempt to use programmatic methods (PowerShell, CLI, etc.) to access/utilize resources if they are unable to access the portal directly. We have faile…

Whilst the status message acknowledge's the issue with Front Door (AFD), it seems as though the rest of the actions are about how to get Portal/internal services working without relying on AFD. For those of us using Front Door does that mean we're in for a long haul?

Currently even the Front Door landing page is only partially loading.

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/products/frontdoor

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