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Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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https://azure.status.microsoft/en-us/status says everything's fine! Any place I can read more about this outage?

official status pages are useless most of the time.

I work for a cloud provider which is serious about transparency. Our customers know they are going to get the straight story from our status page.

When you find an honest vendor, cherish them. They are rare, and they work hard to earn and keep your confidence.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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As a Dutchman, I have to go vote in person on a specific day. But to be honest: I really don't mind doing so. If you live in a town or city, there'll usually be multiple voting locations you can choose from within 10 minutes walking distance. I've never experienced waiting times more than a couple of minutes. Opening times are pretty good, from 7:30 til 21:00. The people there are friendly. What's not to like? (Excep…

In the US, hours-long lines are routine. Not everywhere, but poorer places tend to have fewer voting machines and longer lines. We've been closing a lot of polling places recently: https://abcnews.go.com/US/protecting-vote-1-5-election-day-p...

You have early voting, some choose not to trust the early voting system.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#533

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a Dutchman, I have to go vote in person on a specific day. But to be honest: I really don't mind doing so. If you live in a town or city, there'll usually be multiple voting locations you can choose from within 10 minutes walking distance. I've never experienced waiting times more than a couple of minutes. Opening times are pretty good, from 7:30 til 21:00. The people there are friendly. What's not to like? (Excep…

So, if you have a minor emergency, like a kidney stone and hospitalized for the day - you just miss your chance to vote in that election? If so, I see a lot to dislike. As the point I was making is you can’t anticipate what might come up. Just because it’s worked thus far doesn’t mean it’s designed for resilience. There’s a lot of ways you could miss out in that type of situation. I seems silly to make sure everythin…

If hospitalized on that specific day: Sign the back of the voting card and give your ID to a family member, they can cast your vote

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#534

It still surprises me how much essential services like public transport are completely reliant on cloud providers, and don't seem to have backups in place. Here in The Netherlands, almost all trains were first delayed significantly, and then cancelled for a few hours because of this, which had real impact because today is also the day we got to vote for the next parlement (I know some who can't get home in time befor…

The Flemish bus company (de Lijn) uses Azure and I couldn't activate my ticket when I came home after training a couple of hours ago. I should probably start using physical tickets again, because at least those work properly. It's just stupid that there's so much stuff being moved to digital only (often even only being accessible through an Android or iOS app, despite the parent companies of those two being utterly atrocious) when the physical alternatives are more reliable.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#535

It still surprises me how much essential services like public transport are completely reliant on cloud providers, and don't seem to have backups in place. Here in The Netherlands, almost all trains were first delayed significantly, and then cancelled for a few hours because of this, which had real impact because today is also the day we got to vote for the next parlement (I know some who can't get home in time befor…

Voting days should be a national holiday.

Here in Belgium voting is usually done during the weekend, although it shouldn't matter because voting is a civic duty (unless you have a good reason you have to go vote or you'll be fined), so those who work during the weekend have a valid reason to come in late or leave early.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#536

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So, if you have a minor emergency, like a kidney stone and hospitalized for the day - you just miss your chance to vote in that election? If so, I see a lot to dislike. As the point I was making is you can’t anticipate what might come up. Just because it’s worked thus far doesn’t mean it’s designed for resilience. There’s a lot of ways you could miss out in that type of situation. I seems silly to make sure everythin…

If hospitalized on that specific day: Sign the back of the voting card and give your ID to a family member, they can cast your vote

How is that an acceptable response? Honestly. You’re in the hospital, in pain, likely having a minor surgery, and having someone cast your vote for you is going to be on your mind too? Do you have your voting card in your pocket just in case this were to play out?

That’s just ridiculous in my opinion. Makes me wonder how many well intentioned would be voters end up missing out each election cause shit happens and voting is pretty optional

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

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Wow I just left a Starbucks drivethru line because it was just not moving. I guess it was because of this.

You'd think that Starbucks execs would be held accountable for the fragile system they have put in place. But they won't be.

Why? Starbucks is not providing a critical service. Spending less money and resources and just accepting the risk that occasionally you won't be able to sell coffee for a few hours is a completely valid decision from both management and engineering pov.

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#538
post #375

We’re 100% on Azure but so far there’s no impact for us. Luckily, we moved off Azure Front Door about a year ago. We’d had three major incidents tied to Front Door and stopped treating it as a reliable CDN. They weren’t global outages, more like issues triggered by new deployments. In one case, our homepage suddenly showed a huge Microsoft banner about a “post-quantum encryption algorithm” or something along those li…

We battled https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/1331370/... for over a year, and finally decided to move off since there was no any resolution. Unfortunately our API servers were still behind AFD so they were affected by today's stuff...

Re: Tell HN: Azure outage

#539

Currently standing in a half closed supermarket because the tills are down and they cant take payments

Currently standing in a half closed supermarket because the tills are down and they cant take payments

There's a fairly large supermarket near me that has both kinds of outages.

Occasionally it can't take cards because the (fiber? cable?) internet is down, so it's cash only.

Occasionally it can't take cash because the safe has its own cellular connection, and the cell tower is down.

I was at Frank's Pizza in downtown Houston a few weeks ago and they were giving slices of pizza away because the POS terminal died, and nobody knew enough math to take cash. I tried to give them a $10 and told them to keep the change, but "keep the change" is an unknown phrase these days. They simply couldn't wrap their brains around it. But hey, free pizza!

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