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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Post by margalabargala »

buzer wrote: post #393
margalabargala wrote: post #383

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As far as I can tell, there are a single digit number of municipalities on the planet where two phase power is available. Do you have more details on that I can read? There's not a ton of.info on Wikipedia and I'm interested to know more.

If you are asking about some stoves that can be installed that way, there is for example FÖRDELAKTIG from Ikea. The manual is at https://www.ikea.com/gb/en/manuals/foerdelaktig-induction-ho... , you can find the wiring options from page 13.

That is fascinating. I was unaware this existed.

Thank you so much for sharing this. I learned something new today!

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Post by joshstrange »

The idea of paying for a $2k fridge that has a $30* android board running a large screen is just absurd to me. Not only was this kind of enshittification almost a given, but we all know how well manufacturers update devices like this. Security issues aside, you just know that the software is going to slowly rot (Think: Widget to show tweets before Twitter closed the API down).

If you feel so inclined to have a touch screen on your fridge then you'd be better off getting some random tablet and sticking it to the fridge.

I _love_ my home automation/smart house devices but I wouldn't touch one of these with a 10ft pole.

* That might be a bit high

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Post by joshstrange »

perihelions wrote: post #9

> "Didn't you have ads in the 20th century?" > "Well, sure, but not in our dreams. Only on TV and radio, and in magazines, and movies, and at ball games, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written on the sky... But not in dreams."

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPGgTy5YJ-g

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Post by PetitPrince »

draven wrote: post #472
PetitPrince wrote: post #468

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Glass is not a good thermal insulator, and is more expensive than plastic.

My windows are insulated. Is it more expensive than a screen/camera/electronics ?

I see that a insulated (triple layer) window around 100 euros [ https://www.leroymerlin.fr/produits/bauplaza-fenetre-en-pvc-... ]. Let's assume this retailer makes a 2x margin, so real cost is 50 euro.

A webcam on Aliexpress is around 5 euros. Throw in a microcontroller that's like 2 euros on aliexpress, a 10 euro screen and you still have a 30-ish euro budget for the actual door that's probably plastic (acrylic and something like PE ?). So yeah, probably more expensive.

But that doesn't means that doesn't exists ! We can see that all the time in supermarket, but I guess their needs are different.

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Post by pixl97 »

makeitdouble wrote: post #300
pixl97 wrote: post #166

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Depends if it's luxury or commercial. Commercial products are generally able to be fixed, but there is a quite a price premium on them.

Commercial products usually require knowledge (expertise?), and have their own limitations. Even repairability can be an issue in a different way. I don't know for dishwashers, commercial printers are expected to be serviced by the maker or affiliated business and getting parts as a mere peasant can be pretty complex. Surely rich people can just throw money at a contractor, but that's not what we're talking about I t…

I mean, repairing anything requires knowledge. The problem with most home devices is they are not repairable at all and you can't get parts.

While I'm a computer farmer for my day job, I can repair a vast amount of different devices as long as they don't take specialised equipment like vacuum pumps. And while I don't consider myself a rich person, between my wife and I we're in the higher income brackets in the US, I still service as much of my own stuff as possible. And in general commercial stuff is in the same price ranges as the higher end consumer stuff.

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Post by thorncorona »

ryukoposting wrote: post #384
j1elo wrote: post #256

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I got another way of looking at it: it's not worth it having appliances that last 20 years, because in that time the tech itself can and does improve a lot. Ready example is my aunt: a very good and expensive Miele washing machine, that was made to last as things were before. But now 10 years have elapsed and modern washers come with bigger drums, much lower noises, optimized water and electricity usages, and more ef…

I have a similar dilemma with my car. I drive a 25-year old Lexus with a bizarre electrical glitch. The ABS sometimes goes off as you come to a stop, for no reason at all. It only ever happens below ~10mph, and only when decelerating gradually. Never happens under heavy braking. It's not a safety hazard, and honestly you get used to it. Yet, anyone who test drives this car will run for the hills because it feels spoo…

why not fix it?

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Post by pjerem »

thesuitonym wrote: post #41
verdverm wrote: post #2

Hopefully DNS level ad blocking will help here, and even more hopefully consumers will reject smart appliances. I'd never buy one

They won't. Smart devices tend to be cheap because the manufacturer is double-dipping by selling telemetry and advertising.

> Smart devices tend to be cheap because the manufacturer is double-dipping by selling telemetry and advertising.

I wouldn't call a "$1,899 to $3,499" fridge cheap.

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

Beijinger wrote: post #149
FuriouslyAdrift wrote: post #116

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My house came with all Samsung appliances and I can't wait for all fo them to die. The dryer already went (8 years old). I've been replacing with mid-range LG on advice of the local repair company and been happy so far. Quirky and very few features but seems well built. Can't wait to replace the massive refrigerator and swap the gas range for inductive. Fridge is slowly going (cracked and leaking ice maker, condensat…

8 years is pretty good. I personally like Bosch. Is a fridge with an icemaker not always problematic? How about biofilm? What is the advantage of an inductive stove? Will they even work in the US? I think in Europe they work with 360 V if I remember right. I realized two things: 1. You can cook nearly everything with a ricecooker. Just throw everything inside. Yes, even the minced meat on top. 2. An airfrier is bette…

All inductive ranges pretty much use the same 2700 watt elements. In the US, you have to do a dedicated circuit (50 amp required but I had bigger wire pulled because of resistive heating and sag potential with some ovens triggering circuit breakers).

Inductive tends to be much more efficient than gas (which is what I have) and vastly more efficient than straight electric.

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Post by FuriouslyAdrift »

EvanAnderson wrote: post #188
southwindcg wrote: post #177

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Only eight years for a dryer is definitely not pretty good in my mind. It's barely acceptable unless you have a huge family and are doing laundry daily. I had a low-end Capri (Sears house brand) that was 21 years old and still going strong when I moved away. It was serviced once, by me, to replace a fuse. If I'd paid twice as much and gotten only eight years out of one, I'd be furious.

Yeah-- I was thinking that 8 years isn't even broken-in. My old Sears dryer was 27 when I had to replace a pulley and a thermal fuse. It ran just like it was new after that. I left it with that house but, hopefully, it's still running today.

The motor died on mine and they "didn't make it any more".

I tried to find something close and make custom gearing but it ended up being cheaper to get a new dryer.

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