AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
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Re: AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
#2With AI making it possible to use natural language to modify code, bare metal can make things easier to use with your own code and customization. Abstractions tend to be harder to reason about and have more limited functionality in exchange for being easier to get started on some standard setup.
Re: AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
#3For smaller operations I’d still go with a rent-a-server model with AWS. Theirs is a critical mass though where roll your own makes sense.
The long term app model on the market model is shifting much more towards buying services vs renting infrastructure. It’s here where the AWS case falls apart with folks now buying Planet Scale vs RDS, buying DataBricks over the mess that AWS puts for for data lakes, working with model providers directly vs the headaches of Bedrock. The real long term threat is AWS continues to whiff on all the other stuff and gets reduced to a boring rent-a-server shop that market forces will drive to be very low margin.
Yes a lot of those 3rd party services will run on AWS but the future looks like folks renting servers from AWS at 7% gross margin and selling their value-add service on top at 60% gross margin.
Re: AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
#4For smaller operations I’d still go with a rent-a-server model with AWS. Theirs is a critical mass though where roll your own makes sense. The long term app model on the market model is shifting much more towards buying services vs renting infrastructure. It’s here where the AWS case falls apart with folks now buying Planet Scale vs RDS, buying DataBricks over the mess that AWS puts for for data lakes, working with m…
A bunch written about this recently by analysts. That is the “bear” outlook on AWS
Re: AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
#5For smaller operations I’d still go with a rent-a-server model with AWS. Theirs is a critical mass though where roll your own makes sense. The long term app model on the market model is shifting much more towards buying services vs renting infrastructure. It’s here where the AWS case falls apart with folks now buying Planet Scale vs RDS, buying DataBricks over the mess that AWS puts for for data lakes, working with m…
This doesn't really explain why you wouldn't just get a hetzner. I don't have much experience with either, but if you know how to setup your infra then hetzner seems like a no-brainer? I do not want to be tied to AWS where I have no idea what my bill will be
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I'll add that Amazon execs told us to our face that they use your AWS usage to decide if they were going to copy your services (which they did in our case), so any dev or ops tool on AWS shouldn't be there anyway for competitive reason.
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I'll add that Amazon execs told us to our face that they use your AWS usage to decide if they were going to copy your services (which they did in our case), so any dev or ops tool on AWS shouldn't be there anyway for competitive reason.
What was the service they cloned from you?
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#9It's an interesting article, thanks for that.
What people forget about the OVH or Hetzner comparison is that for those entry servers they are known for, think the Advance line with OVH or AX with Hetzner. Those boxes come with some drawbacks.
The OVH Advance line for example comes without ECC memory, in a server, that might host databases. It's a disaster waiting to happen. There is no option to add ECC memory with the Advance line, so you have to use Scale or High Grade servers, which are far from "affordable".
Hetzner per default comes with a single PSU, a single uplink. Yes, if nothing happens this is probably fine, but if you need a reliable private network or 10G this will cost extra.
Re: AWS to bare metal two years later: Answering your questions about leaving AWS
#10Ok but what about a dedicated OVH for example? Those are about 70% cheaper than AWS, so is it still worth it to colo?