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Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

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Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#81

Nvidia seems to be operating more like a sovereign wealth fund than a traditional business. They have a very-in-demand product, that is not likely to last forever, and is getting their fingers in as many pies as possible with the money and influence while they have it.

Which is not not smart.

edit: highlight: "not not". I think it's very smart.

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

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post #77
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you forgetting about Cisco, Juniper (now HPE), and Arista - all of which are US companies? Also, why is Nokia closer to the US than Ericsson?

Cisco, Juniper, and Arista make carrier hardware like cell phone radios and controllers and traditional telephone network switches? While there's probably a little overlap in all of their product lines with Nokia (I mean Nokia makes simple ethernet switches so that carriers can buy all their gear from one vendor), most of those companies don't really compete in the same markets as Nokia Cisco isn't selling into T-Mob…

> As the other global options for network hardware

Hence my comment :)

Nokia does in fact compete with Cisco and the others, but less so than in the past.

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#83
post #59

What exactly is "AI-RAN"?

It's the name given to an initiative by telco vendors like Nokia and Ericson to explore using NVIDIA GPUs to supply the core compute needs of next generation Radio Access Networks (RAN).

It's a potential 6G architecture.

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#84
post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you forgetting about Cisco, Juniper (now HPE), and Arista - all of which are US companies? Also, why is Nokia closer to the US than Ericsson?

Because context is important and we're discussing Nokia and/or Nvidia in this particular thread.

Re-read the comment I replied to. I wasn’t the one who brought up how Nokia is the closest company to the US for network hardware.

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#86

Nvidia seems to be operating more like a sovereign wealth fund than a traditional business. They have a very-in-demand product, that is not likely to last forever, and is getting their fingers in as many pies as possible with the money and influence while they have it.

Which is not not smart. edit: highlight: "not not". I think it's very smart.

you calling nvidia dumb not smart

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#88

Nvidia seems to be operating more like a sovereign wealth fund than a traditional business. They have a very-in-demand product, that is not likely to last forever, and is getting their fingers in as many pies as possible with the money and influence while they have it.

Which is not not smart. edit: highlight: "not not". I think it's very smart.

Why is it not smart?

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#89
post #59

What exactly is "AI-RAN"?

The radio access network (RAN) is all the RF part of a mobile network: towers, base stations, the signals between our phones and the towers, phone-to-satellite comms (non-terrestrial network or NTN).

AI-RAN uses AI/ML for adaptive behaviors and optimizations in all these links.

For example, fine-grained RF and modulation details, called the channel state information (CSI), is constantly being exchanged between a phone and a base station. The volume of information creates transmission latencies. Using autoencoder models, this information can be semantically compressed to reduce its volume and decoded with high fidelity on the other side.

That's just one example. In the upcoming 6G, RAN will be "AI-native", using AI/ML everywhere. The standards may require AI accelerator chips in most base stations, NTN satellites, phones, and other elements.

Re: Nvidia takes $1B stake in Nokia

#90

Nvidia seems to be operating more like a sovereign wealth fund than a traditional business. They have a very-in-demand product, that is not likely to last forever, and is getting their fingers in as many pies as possible with the money and influence while they have it.

Perhaps not forever but GPUs for AI is likely to be a very solid and profitable business for a long time. CPUs made plenty of money for their makers in that era.
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