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1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by arresin »

serf wrote: post #79
disambiguation wrote: post #76

Surely the overlap between people with both the wealth and the preference for industrial machinery remote controlled by an underpaid worker from the Philippines in their house (around their children) over an organic house keeper is vanishingly thin, no? The total addressable market for giant fighting robots on the other hand...

>by an underpaid worker from the Philippines in their house (around their children) I think that it's hilarious (in a grim way) that we got this thing : a 30kg robot with no proven reliability performing dynamic/active balancing at all times and everyone jumps to the fear of 'The Scary Foreigner' rather than the fact that this actively power-damp'd mass is actively trying to fall backwards or forwards, being held tog…

Gen x will never miss an opportunity to preach.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by supportengineer »

disambiguation wrote: post #76

Surely the overlap between people with both the wealth and the preference for industrial machinery remote controlled by an underpaid worker from the Philippines in their house (around their children) over an organic house keeper is vanishingly thin, no? The total addressable market for giant fighting robots on the other hand...

Yes, it is thin... and stop calling me Shirley.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by jfim »

xnx wrote: post #74
atourgates wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I hope you do! I'm skeptical of v1 of this technology, but I could imagine a mature version of this technology could be great. And $500/mo for essentially an always-available housekeeper seems very reasonable. Where I live, having a housekeeper come for a few hours once a week costs about $100 a week, or $400/mo. Having a robot that could potentially always be there to: * Tidy up. * Clean * Do laundry * Help with oth…

> And $500/mo for essentially an always-available housekeeper seems very reasonable. Maybe, but you should factor in that many chores can't be done at all, and those that can be done will take ~10x as long.

I'm skeptical too, but the fact that it works slower isn't too much of a problem if it doesn't require human attention and finishes before one is back home. It's just like how the Roomba can take as much time as it needs to to vacuum the living room when I'm gone for the day, as long as it's done by the time I get back.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by vineyardmike »

easton wrote: post #14

> For any chore it doesn’t know, you can schedule a 1X Expert to guide it, helping NEO learn while getting the job done. Is this a humanoid robot that's controlled by someone in a call center remotely doing your laundry? Putting aside ethical reservations about how much they are probably paying per task, that feels like wash and fold with extra steps.

This feels like the only issue is ethical.

Presumably, this is a way to collect diverse training data for the robot to be trained on. Wash and fold as a service is valuable (to some people), and presumable the “extra steps” are offset with the in-home aspect of this.

Meanwhile, the ethical considerations are huge. Laborers are literally training their replacement, and probably at questionable wages. They’re also explicitly inviting someone into your home remotely, and that person can see and interact with your house. Feels like a privacy and safety risk. Additionally, it seems likely that this would be a literal Trojan horse to allow international labor to work within the US without dealing with actual immigration. Oh and just for good measure, it’s taking the jobs traditionally held by some of society’s least privileged and most desperate workers.

Anyways, if it actually works, I want one.

Edit: I feel compelled to note that apparently they’re hiring in Palo Alto for these roles, today.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by bottlepalm »

gigel82 wrote: post #54

So, like a large scale scam to get your "downpayment" ? How would remote human operators scale, especially for the $20k "ownership" model? I presume the actual hardware probably costs them at least $10k to make, so after about 400 hours of "remote operator use", it's all loss on the company? I suspect they have a limit on use, or a pay-to-use-remotely thing they neglected to announce.

$200 is refundable, so not a scam at all, just holding your spot in line like any other pre-order.

It's pretty clear that they're still working on the AI training so 'human in the loop' is not part of their long term business model.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by vineyardmike »

lm28469 wrote: post #48
xnx wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What part blows your mind?

Personally it's the part where some rich dude in SV tells me he's building what sci fi says will save us time to focus on real things The irony and complete disconnection from the reality of 99% of people is quite mind blowing indeed

This feels like the exact opposite of disconnected?

The last few years of tech have been full of keynotes with AI that can make art, AI that can send heartfelt messages for you, AI to make music, etc - All things people actually like to do and want to do.

This is a $500/mo robot that can do household chores so you don’t have to. Many people in America (estimated >10%) spend a few hundred a month already on actually hiring cleaners to visit their house and clean biweekly. This is cost-comparable and a task no one wants to spend time on.

This is a luxury, but it’s a top-25th percentile luxury not top 0.1%.

Re: 1X Neo – Home Robot - Pre Order

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

I ordered one. They have nailed all the right things in my opinion:

1. Remote teleop with transfer learning

2. Quiet operation (nobody else is doing this)

3. Pulley based hands

For that price, absolutely

Plus I have epilepsy and live alone so this might just save my life

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