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YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by titusjohnson »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #17
INTPenis wrote: post #7

In my circle, piracy is making a comeback. We're tired of having to hunt down streaming services, and be extorted for hundreds of euro a month, just to see ads for their own programs. Streaming was fun for a while, but as always these greedy execs are ruining it.

Just let me buy an MP4 legally for $5 and I will buy every movie.

We need mandatory licensing. It worked for Radio, it can work for Streaming.

There's no reason Netflix and Hulu couldn't both have ALL media available. Then they could actually compete on features and capabilities, not on media catalog.

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Post by LocalH »

wilg wrote: post #123
analog8374 wrote: post #3

In a word, way less free. And more commercials. All you pirates with your archives and torrents. You are Luke Skywalker here.

There are no commercials with YouTube Premium, which is totally worth it. Why people feel entitled to pirate things still is incredible. People fundamentally hate paying artists for their work even though it's incredibly cheap, because they can come up with some bogus way to blame a corporation and feel, like you said here, laughably, like Luke Skywalker. Insane.

Avoiding commercials isn't piracy

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Post by dostick »

pllbnk wrote: post #225
benbristow wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many services nowadays. Was fine when it was just Netflix, had mostly everything, no ads, full quality. Nowadays Netflix price has gone up, additional plans for 4K/no-ads, anti-account sharing and less content as content now has gone to Amazon/Disney+/Hulu/Discovery+/Paramount+/Peacock/HBO etc. etc. Even if you subscribed to them all you'd still not have everything. Sailing the seas, you get everything for free o…

Too many services is a good problem to have in a regular market. The problem is the accessibility and fragmentation of content. If all services had the same content, they would have to compete on the features, price and performance, which would be a healthy form of competition.

Yes, need proper standardisation. we are now in the era when there’s fragmentation in a tape audio players, with dozen of different incompatible cassette tape formats and musicians having lock-in contracts with one format each. To listen to all music you would have to buy each player on the market. Only piracy allows you to buy just one tape player and have copies of all other tapes to play.

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Post by VertanaNinjai »

keiferski wrote: post #195
_vqpz wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see anyone in this thread even implying that's how most of the population acts, they're simply stating their take on streaming.

Pretty much every comment here is talking about how their YouTube experience is suboptimal, how streaming platforms are getting worse (and not how YouTube is getting better), and other dismissive takes. It's skepticism all around. The same kinds of comments are on threads about TikTok, which are equally clueless about how big of a deal TikTok is culturally to young people. Sorry if my comment comes off a bit cranky,…

And how is YouTube becoming better? Because in recent years if they detect ad blocking on a network? They will shadow ban the entire network. I can no longer use YouTube without a VPN because every single video cuts at the 1:00 mark. No explanation, no pop up. The videos simply load indefinitely. I have tried numerous solutions, but when I’m on my home network? I either VPN or I don’t get YouTube access.

This has been my situation for at least 2 years across multiple devices and accounts.

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Post by stillatit »

swarnie wrote: post #161
bdcravens wrote: post #160

I recently noticed that a channel I subscribed completely gave up. She used to have a lot of reselling and business content, and even had an Amazon Liquidations storefront, etc. Now all that's gone, and she's showing typical rage bait BS, like Walmart shoplifters getting caught and the like, and every video she's wearing low-cut tops to get extra cleavage out there. I have no doubt she's getting more engagement than…

At that point just pivot to a MindGeek video service, their pay per 1k views is significantly better than Youtube.

I've seen this repeated all over the internet, but it's far from true. CPM/RPM on adult video is way, way, WAY lower than YouTube or other SFW ad networks.

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Post by arielcostas »

snapplebobapple wrote: post #81
benbristow wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Too many services nowadays. Was fine when it was just Netflix, had mostly everything, no ads, full quality. Nowadays Netflix price has gone up, additional plans for 4K/no-ads, anti-account sharing and less content as content now has gone to Amazon/Disney+/Hulu/Discovery+/Paramount+/Peacock/HBO etc. etc. Even if you subscribed to them all you'd still not have everything. Sailing the seas, you get everything for free o…

This is what copyright does though by design. Everyone leverages the monopoly granted by government to maximize profit because its way easier to force people to your service for maximum profit and compete (n offerings rather than everyone ha>ing the same offerings and competing on price and user experience. This is also causing the crazy market dislocation from hige show budgets because they are tryingto invest in th…

Plus exclusivity, probably. Music abides by the same copyright laws yet you don't need to subscribe to Spotify to listen to certain artists, or pay YT Music Premium for someone else. I'm not including podcasts here, since they are more of a "production" itself rather than just owning the rights.

Re: YouTube Just Ate TV. It's Only Getting Started

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Post by snapplebobapple »

arielcostas wrote: post #236
snapplebobapple wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what copyright does though by design. Everyone leverages the monopoly granted by government to maximize profit because its way easier to force people to your service for maximum profit and compete (n offerings rather than everyone ha>ing the same offerings and competing on price and user experience. This is also causing the crazy market dislocation from hige show budgets because they are tryingto invest in th…

Plus exclusivity, probably. Music abides by the same copyright laws yet you don't need to subscribe to Spotify to listen to certain artists, or pay YT Music Premium for someone else. I'm not including podcasts here, since they are more of a "production" itself rather than just owning the rights.

The government came in and spanked the music industry back when it was radio primarily and that caused a licencing and payment regime to be codified that forced this as a matter of custom. The situation in video has always been exclusivity to channel partners and replayability didn't play a big role until the industry was pretty mature so no spanking from government has yet to materialize in the video market to fix this situation to the extent possible under the currenty broken copyright regime.
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