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Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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There's a $30,000 bounty set up for anyone who can patch the firmware to eliminate the ads. Please consider contributing additional donations against the matching funds. https://bounties.fulu.org/bounties/samsung-familyhub-refrige...

I recall Louis saying that some (or all?) solutions to these bounties cannot be revealed to the public due to being liable under DMCA circumvention measures. IANAL.

Doesn't it just affect US citizens?

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

#162
I've never purchased a refrigerator in my life - every place I've lived in my adult life has been a rental where I wasn't the one picking the appliances. What happens when I'm looking for a place to live, and I find somewhere that meets my requirements, except that the landlord has this Samsung smart fridge in the kitchen - maybe they thought this was a selling point, like the landlord I had who put the fact that they had a Google Nest thermostat proudly in the apartment ad (I deliberately never gave it my WiFi password)?

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Apparently, you can turn off ads quite simply. * How to turn off ads on your Family Hub The widget will appear by default on the fridges as part of the software update. However, Samsung is giving users the option to turn off ads. To do this, go to the Settings page on the fridge, scroll to Advertisements, select it, and you’ll be taken to a screen where you can toggle off ads. This will remove the widget entirely. If…

That button will soon become "Show fewer ads" if it doesn't just get removed at all.

Just like how Youtube won't let you switch off Shorts, but will let you click "Show fewer" which lasts for a few weeks.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Same they are off my list as well though I generally have less than zero interest in smart devices, I also have a Samsung "smart" TV as well, it asked for Wifi first time I turned it on, said "nope" connected a HDMI to a Fedora box and just use that. I control what devices in my house connect to the internet .

> I control what devices in my house connect to the internet. That’s certainly admirable, but haven’t tv manufacturers beeen caught connecting to ANY WiFi they find, if it’s open? Amongst other various dark patterns? Your statement here kind of characterizes it as user error, but the manufacturers are absolutely hostile actors here.

This nonsense keeps getting repeated over and over again for years now and I have yet to find a single documented case of it happening. You'd think that with all the attention, someone would've actually documented it by now.

Enough people connect their TV/smart devices willingly to the internet that there is no need for adversarial approaches like this (which are not trivial to set up - they'd need to maintain per-country partnerships with Wi-Fi hotspot providers, pay them and hope the ROI is worth it).

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Samsung appliances have among the worst reputations for ease of repair and lifespan. Sadly most other brands are rebrands of Chinese conglomerates or not much better on the quality chain. But honestly it's also a lottery. We bought a fridge on sale for $500 as an emergency stopover when our expensive fridge was delayed by a month during a move, and it's still plugging along out in the garage, a hostile environment fo…

The issue is that the 10k fridge is not actually any better. The "luxury" appliances can be double that and are still shit.

Depends if it's luxury or commercial. Commercial products are generally able to be fixed, but there is a quite a price premium on them.

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Samsung makes bad fridges. I bought a Sub-Zero. It has 2 compressors (1 for fridge and 1 for freezer), is made of high quality parts so will last 20+ years, has excellent service guarantees, and is made in America. Highly recommended.

> It has 2 compressors (1 for fridge and 1 for freezer) Is this a feature? It seems like making more parts to break. Surely there's a better way to get independent cooling control. E.g. one compressor with valves to control which side(s) the coolant flows to?

It allows the refrigerator to run two different zones in terms of humidity. Evidently, it really does keep fruits and vegetables lasting longer.

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#168
Galaxy S2 was the best phone I ever had. I think it was pure Android, if not, you had some minor apps from Samsung that you could've delete. I think I left the Samsung train right about S5 (which was supposed water proof, but it wasn't). It was just down fall from there. Samsung account, locked phone full with shitty apps that you couldn't remove (without rooting)... I don't think I'll ever have anything from Samsung in the near future

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I control what devices in my house connect to the internet. That’s certainly admirable, but haven’t tv manufacturers beeen caught connecting to ANY WiFi they find, if it’s open? Amongst other various dark patterns? Your statement here kind of characterizes it as user error, but the manufacturers are absolutely hostile actors here.

This nonsense keeps getting repeated over and over again for years now and I have yet to find a single documented case of it happening. You'd think that with all the attention, someone would've actually documented it by now. Enough people connect their TV/smart devices willingly to the internet that there is no need for adversarial approaches like this (which are not trivial to set up - they'd need to maintain per-co…

Hmm I thought I had read it on an article posted here at some point, I could be wrong.

Re: Samsung makes ads on smart fridges official with upcoming software update

#170

This guarantees I'll never buy a Samsung appliance. If they're this willing to screw with their customers today, they'll do it again tomorrow. Sadly, I'm including their TVs in this. I have one today, displaying the output of an Apple TV and not directly connected to the Internet because hah, no way, but I'll be shopping around when it comes time to replace it. Pity. They make nice stuff. Not nice enough that I'm wil…

I was out when they decided to change their authentication, with only two weeks notice, and (from what I read) incorrect documentation, causing it all to not work with HomeAssistant for a month [1].

[1] https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/133623#issueco...

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