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United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Dead comment from ajju: When we moved cross country to California, my wife and I were so scared of this happening to our pup that we opted to drive for 4 days rather than risk it. Me, and a lot of people I know would be willing to pay at least as much as a ticket for a person costs to have our pets transported safely by air, preferably in the cabin instead of as luggage. It doesn't have to be with us, although I woul…

My wife and I did the same thing. When we moved from the midwest to the bay area, we opted for a cross country drive than to traumatize our little dog. I cannot imagine this happening to us.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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I've never flown with a pet, but I can't imagine the heartache from arriving at your destination to find one of your pets has died. It sounds like the owners did everything reasonable to prepare for the flight. When it comes to finding United responsible, maybe travel crate companies should equip the crates with temperature sensors, so that an owner could see the conditions the pets underwent through a flight. Owners…

They definitely have cargo container data recorders that monitor this stuff. I wonder if there is one for planes.

Also, I wonder if United would make that data available for people who have living cargo (or otherwise precious). I'm certain that United logs the temperature and humidity of their cargo.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Major airlines do not guarantee the safety of any living thing in the hold of the aircraft.

Unless something has changed, my understanding is that small animals (cats, dogs under something like 10 lbs) are allowed to fly with you in an approved carrier.

Any other creature must go in the belly of the plane with the baggage. You will be charged the price of a seat, and in return the airline does not guarantee any particular temperature range for the baggage hold nor even that it will remain pressurized. This is for domestic flights in America - I cannot speak for other air travel situations.

As a proud owner of a 60lb dog, I have sometimes been in the position of having to arrange alternate transportation (usually driving a car) or altering plans to accommodate my pooch. I simply cannot take the chance that something were to happen similar to this story. It is tragic, no doubt, but the provisions airlines make are very clear and most of this risk could've been avoided.

Edit: I've thought about this issue a lot. I think it would be in everyone's mutual interest for airlines to offer a safe way to transport pets or other small animals. Assuming that's a non-starter with existing carriers, some other business could serve this niche effectively. I suspect it could be done profitably.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They definitely have cargo container data recorders that monitor this stuff. I wonder if there is one for planes.

Also, I wonder if United would make that data available for people who have living cargo (or otherwise precious). I'm certain that United logs the temperature and humidity of their cargo.

You don't want the airlines doing the logging. They have a disincentive to do it correctly/report it correctly.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Major airlines do not guarantee the safety of any living thing in the hold of the aircraft. Unless something has changed, my understanding is that small animals (cats, dogs under something like 10 lbs) are allowed to fly with you in an approved carrier. Any other creature must go in the belly of the plane with the baggage. You will be charged the price of a seat, and in return the airline does not guarantee any parti…

I think this niche may be served by this company: http://www.petrelocation.com/frontpage/

I walk past their office everyday on the way to mine in Austin. Used the article as an excuse to see what they do... looks like this couple should have used a service like this since the airline does not guarantee safety.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Total non-sequitur but this thread has 20 points and 5 comments in 36 minutes, posted by a 5k+ karma user... and it's buried at the bottom of the second page? How'd that happen? I've seen posts with 3 or 4 up votes in an hour make it to the front page.

Well, maybe because it really doesn't have much to do with HN? No idea.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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Major airlines do not guarantee the safety of any living thing in the hold of the aircraft. Unless something has changed, my understanding is that small animals (cats, dogs under something like 10 lbs) are allowed to fly with you in an approved carrier. Any other creature must go in the belly of the plane with the baggage. You will be charged the price of a seat, and in return the airline does not guarantee any parti…

I'd say it was a business opportunity if it wasn't for the abysmal track record airlines have for remaining profitable transporting humans.

Re: United Airlines Killed Our Golden Retriever, Bea

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I've never flown with a pet, but I can't imagine the heartache from arriving at your destination to find one of your pets has died. It sounds like the owners did everything reasonable to prepare for the flight. When it comes to finding United responsible, maybe travel crate companies should equip the crates with temperature sensors, so that an owner could see the conditions the pets underwent through a flight. Owners…

That's an excellent idea.

As an analogy, crates with delicate instruments have shock and orientation indicators, sometimes outside, and color-coded so they will be apparent on a handoff or on delivery, and sometimes inside.

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