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Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by whoknowsidont »

wortelefant wrote: post #69

With some controversial topics like Nuclear Power on the German wikipedia or the Gaza conflict on the English one, wikipedia has become less than useless. Once an activist editor sith too much time gets hold of a page, it is game over for neutrality of wokipedia. Grokipedia might introduce some much needed competition.

What an astoundingly similar comment to: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45734456

I'm sorry but there is no way for reasonable people to believe that Grokipedia would be a legitimate alternative to wikipedia.

It betrays a deep misunderstanding about LLM's in general, but especially grok, and objectivity itself as a concept.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by antisol » 

    I bet now you’d kill for a senior thesis based on my free, multilingual, publicly cited, text-based articles, motherfucker
Yeeeeeeeeah.... Not if it's written in or about the Scots language.

(see: https://www.theregister.com/2020/08/26/scots_wikipedia_fake/ ) (see also: that time the Scottish governmment used Scots wikipedia as a source)

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by this_user »

jalapenos wrote: post #42
babblingfish wrote: post #5

Especially relevant today with the release of grokipedia

Someone please enlighten me: what is the point of an AI-generated Wikipedia when we're all now using (Wikipedia-trained) AIs directly instead of Wikipedias?

So that new AI models can then be trained on the AI-generated Wikipedia.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by [deleted] »

coolelectronics wrote: post #40
brightball wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s so good. I spent 2 hours reading articles on there last night and the consistency was excellent, although a little verbose at times.

It took me less than a minute on the site to run into factually wrong information, broken citations, etc. Cannot imagine rotting my brain with knowingly bad information for over 2 hours

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Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by neaden »

sunaookami wrote: post #58
IAmBroom wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsupervised Source of Truth(tm), what could possibly go wrong?

Just like Wikipedia?

With Wikipedia there is the talk page which will alert you to controversies about topics, as well as checking the citations. While Grokopedia has "citations" when I checked many of them didn't actually have anything to do with what they were supposed to be citing.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by etchalon »

jalapenos wrote: post #42
babblingfish wrote: post #5

Especially relevant today with the release of grokipedia

Someone please enlighten me: what is the point of an AI-generated Wikipedia when we're all now using (Wikipedia-trained) AIs directly instead of Wikipedias?

Grok trained on Wikipedia so it could generate a version of Wikipedia that reflected Musk's views that could then be used to train future versions of Grok.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by TheBigSalad »

wortelefant wrote: post #69

With some controversial topics like Nuclear Power on the German wikipedia or the Gaza conflict on the English one, wikipedia has become less than useless. Once an activist editor sith too much time gets hold of a page, it is game over for neutrality of wokipedia. Grokipedia might introduce some much needed competition.

You had me in the first half.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by etchalon »

add-sub-mul-div wrote: post #53
djeastm wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nevermind the Grok-ness of it, I can't seriously believe a thinking human being would spend 2 hours knowingly reading something written by AI.

It's for the intersection of people who want LLM summarization and people who want an assurance of confirmation of bias explicitly built in. It's not for thinking people.

"A machine which simulates thought for people who don't want to think" is an adequate summation of LLM-generated text.

Re: Hi, it's me, Wikipedia, and I am ready for your apology

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Post by incomingpain »

Wikipedia was the greatest long ago. Then anonymous partisans setup a 'source blacklist' which essentially curates all of wiki for a specific ideology. They acknowledge their systemic bias and have done nothing to fix it. Wiki deserves to give us an apology.

In reality no apology needed from wiki, we just move on to what's better. Grokipedia v0.1 is out and from what I've seen it's shockingly better. Tons of improvements are still to come no doubt. Ive found inaccuracies in articles that I look forward to having grok remedy.

Soon we will get APIs which will slot into searxng well. The plan is to have grok be the only editor. You have to convince grok to edit a page.

Grokipedia's AI editor point of view will thus eliminate the human/ideological abuse of wikipedia.

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