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EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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post #33

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Balto-Slavic branch divides into Baltic and Slavic language groups so nothing wrong here

Yup, most of Eastern Europe are Balto-Slavic. While the division from the Eastern Slavic languages (Russian, Belarussian, Ukranian, etc) is distant, they are still Slavic. From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language.

Hungarian too, although there’s a question about whether Hungary is Eastern or Central Europe.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

#52
How does this work?

It seems like it, in most ways, it would be bad to train on 24 separate languages. That's just 24 partitions to the data. Seems really inefficient and better to simply train in the biggest (english) and translate.

I do think this will introduce some biases that correlate with the English language. It would be interesting to see more specifically what this means. But regardless, I don't think you can produce a competitive model with such a large subdivision of training data.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

What is the name of Maltese in Maltese? Like “el español” in Spanish, it’s neat to know what languages call themselves

'ish' is a pretty universal english suffix. So Spanish is just "españ-ish".

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

#54
post #44

As expected, Europe finally catches up to 2024 and launches an LLM that barely competes against the heavyweights. The US and China are running rings around Europe. Mistral is an exception as it was funded by US VCs and they are a great example showing that without VC funding, Mistral would have been begging to the EU for a microsopic grant to train a LLM worse than Llama.

less exposure to a technology that doesn't bring that much revenue and it's not projected to do so in the upcoming years.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

#56
1. It's a nice start, but the EU has to scale to Manhattan Project levels in order to properly compete with the US and China.

2. A credible scale effort for EU own silicon for AI Compute, wouldn't hurt either.

3. And this can only be achieved by vertical integration to combat fragmentation.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

What is the name of Maltese in Maltese? Like “el español” in Spanish, it’s neat to know what languages call themselves

Wikipedia says it's "Malti"

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, most of Eastern Europe are Balto-Slavic. While the division from the Eastern Slavic languages (Russian, Belarussian, Ukranian, etc) is distant, they are still Slavic. From Eastern Europe, only Estonian is not a Slavic language.

Hungarian too, although there’s a question about whether Hungary is Eastern or Central Europe.

Ah, yes, how could I forget! As a side note, though also Finno-Ugric then similarity in sound and appearance from Finnish or Estonian at least appears very far.

Re: EuroLLM: LLM made in Europe built to support all 24 official EU languages

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For those curious, the 24 official languages are Bulgarian, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Estonian, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hungarian, Irish, Italian, Latvian, Lithuanian, Maltese, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Spanish, and Swedish. Maltese, interestingly, is the only Afro-Asiatic derived language. Hungarian, Finnish, and Estonian are the three Uralic languages. All the others ar…

I read, write and speak Maltese, AMA if you are curious about the language.

How are loan words viewed? Do businesses work in Maltese? Are monolingual speakers of the language regarded differently than those fluent in English? Do young people in Malta listen to Maltese music?
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