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Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by cozzyd »

LudwigNagasena wrote: post #50
cozzyd wrote: post #22

Amusing to see what Grokipedia thinks of various cities. And no surprise, apartheid apologetics: https://grokipedia.com/page/Apartheid#debunking-prevailing-n... Hilarious factual errors in https://grokipedia.com/page/Green_Line_(CTA)

By "apartheid apologetics" do you mean that it is factually wrong or merely that you dislike the framing? I think there is a huge difference between those two accusations.

Apologetics has a well-defined meaning. In this case, it's a bad faith deluge of out-of-context non-sequiturs posing as a coherent argument in order to defend something deplorable.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

#62

Post by txcwg002 »

measurablefunc wrote: post #30
sergiotapia wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can select text, and send factual errors to be fixed. If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes.

Why would you do free work for a company which is planning to profit from your labor? Wikipedia/Wikimedia is a non-profit. All of their money pays for real expenses instead of whatever vanity project Musk has decided is necessary to sell xAI to the masses.

"All of their money pays for real expenses"

Not true, nearly 30% of their budget goes to partisan activism with DEI related initiatives.

"Supporting equity represents the second largest part of our programmatic work"

https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_...

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by JohnFen »

yawboakye wrote: post #47
solid_fuel wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes. Why? This site isn't run by people who are interested in factual accuracy. If they think Wikipedia articles are inaccurate, they could always propose changes and have a proper discussion with the rest of the contributors. Grok was trained on Wikipedia so realistically this is just a jumbled regurgitation of Wikipedia articles blended with ot…

the pursuit of truth doesn’t work by keeping so-called falsehoods up while a debate rages on about their veracity. especially given that there’s no indication on wikipedia of contested facts. i may not be involved in the debate but i’d love some indication and perhaps a hyperlink to where the debate is happening. the proper discussion you want will never happen. it’s an exercise in persuasion ie trying to move people…

> i may not be involved in the debate but i’d love some indication and perhaps a hyperlink to where the debate is happening.

I think that's the "Talk" pages that go with the entry pages.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

#65

Post by roryirvine »

cozzyd wrote: post #22

Amusing to see what Grokipedia thinks of various cities. And no surprise, apartheid apologetics: https://grokipedia.com/page/Apartheid#debunking-prevailing-n... Hilarious factual errors in https://grokipedia.com/page/Green_Line_(CTA)

I've spotted surprising amounts of confidently-stated nonsense even in fairly neutral articles where Elon / xAI is unlikely to have a particular political slant.

Many of the most glaring errors are linked to references which either directly contradict Grokipedia's assertion or don't mention the supposed fact one way or the other.

I guess this is down to LLM hallucinations? I've not used Grok before, but the problems I spotted in 15 mins of casual browsing made it feel like the output of SoA models 2-3 years ago.

Has this been done on the cheap? I suspect that xAI should probably have prioritised quality over quantity for the initial launch.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

#66

Post by rsynnott »

roryirvine wrote: post #65
cozzyd wrote: post #22

Amusing to see what Grokipedia thinks of various cities. And no surprise, apartheid apologetics: https://grokipedia.com/page/Apartheid#debunking-prevailing-n... Hilarious factual errors in https://grokipedia.com/page/Green_Line_(CTA)

I've spotted surprising amounts of confidently-stated nonsense even in fairly neutral articles where Elon / xAI is unlikely to have a particular political slant. Many of the most glaring errors are linked to references which either directly contradict Grokipedia's assertion or don't mention the supposed fact one way or the other. I guess this is down to LLM hallucinations? I've not used Grok before, but the problems…

> I suspect that xAI should probably have prioritised quality over quantity for the initial launch.

I mean, I don't think this is _for_ people who care about quality, tbh. For those, there is wikipedia. This is more of a safe space for Musk.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

#67

Post by Jordan-117 »

yawboakye wrote: post #47
solid_fuel wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes. Why? This site isn't run by people who are interested in factual accuracy. If they think Wikipedia articles are inaccurate, they could always propose changes and have a proper discussion with the rest of the contributors. Grok was trained on Wikipedia so realistically this is just a jumbled regurgitation of Wikipedia articles blended with ot…

the pursuit of truth doesn’t work by keeping so-called falsehoods up while a debate rages on about their veracity. especially given that there’s no indication on wikipedia of contested facts. i may not be involved in the debate but i’d love some indication and perhaps a hyperlink to where the debate is happening. the proper discussion you want will never happen. it’s an exercise in persuasion ie trying to move people…

Huh? It's fairly common to see notices at the top of a page that something is under dispute for NPOV, a current event, subject of an edit war, etc.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by Timon3 »

measurablefunc wrote: post #30
sergiotapia wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can select text, and send factual errors to be fixed. If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes.

Why would you do free work for a company which is planning to profit from your labor? Wikipedia/Wikimedia is a non-profit. All of their money pays for real expenses instead of whatever vanity project Musk has decided is necessary to sell xAI to the masses.

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Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by tstrimple »

Timon3 wrote: post #68
measurablefunc wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you do free work for a company which is planning to profit from your labor? Wikipedia/Wikimedia is a non-profit. All of their money pays for real expenses instead of whatever vanity project Musk has decided is necessary to sell xAI to the masses.

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Because truth is inconvenient to their world view. Better to build up the world and facts as you imagine them to be than risk learning something that contradicts deeply held beliefs.
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