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Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel. > Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now includes models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails. Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

We don’t even have a general definition that anyone can agree on for AGI.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

#112

> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel. > Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now includes models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails. Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

>Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

I think it is near-certain that within two years a large AI company will claim it has developed AGI.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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AGI as a PR stunt for OpenAI is becoming a meme.

We're just a year away from full self driving!

You will be self driven to the fusion plant and you will like it. The AGI will meet you at the front door.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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> The two companies reportedly signed an agreement [in 2023] stating OpenAI has only achieved AGI when it develops AI systems that can generate at least $100 billion in profits. https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/26/microsoft-and-openai-have-...

It's all so unfathomably stupid. And it's going to bring down an economy.

> It's all so unfathomably stupid. And it's going to bring down an economy.

Dot-com bubble all over again

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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I think it's a bit late for that. Also, you have to consider the size of Microsoft relative to its ownership of OpenAI, future dilution, and how Microsoft itself will fare in the future. If, say, Microsoft is on a path towards decreasing relevance/marketshare/profitability, any gains from its stake in OpenAI may be offset by its diminishing fortunes.

Huh? Windows itself might have had it's heyday but MS is solidly at #2 for clouds only behind AWS with enterprise Windows shops that will be hard pressed to not use MS options if they go to the cloud (Google really has continued to fumble their cloud positions with their reputation for "killedbygoogle.com" nagging on everyones mind). The biggest real threat to MS position is the Trump administration pushing foreign c…

Watch this week. Amazon cloud growth has been terrible (Google and Microsoft remains >30%). Amazon have basically no good offerings for AI which is where gcp is bringing to eat their lunch. Anthropic moving to TPU for inference is a big big signal.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AGI as a PR stunt for OpenAI is becoming a meme.

We're just a year away from full self driving!

I wouldn’t be surprised if AGI arrives before Tesla has a full self-driving car though.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

#119

> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel. > Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now includes models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails. Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

some argue that we've already achieved it, albeit in minimal form: https://www.noemamag.com/artificial-general-intelligence-is-...

but in reality, it's a vacuous goal post that can always be kicked down the line.

Re: The next chapter of the Microsoft–OpenAI partnership

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> Once AGI is declared by OpenAI, that declaration will now be verified by an independent expert panel. > Microsoft’s IP rights for both models and products are extended through 2032 and now includes models post-AGI, with appropriate safety guardrails. Does anyone really think we are close to AGI? I mean honestly?

Love that we have reached AGI, but OpenAI's LLM can't even drive a car...

There are a lot of humans that can’t drive a car (well).

Part of the problem with “AGI” is everyone has their own often totally arbitrary yard sticks.

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