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Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by solid_fuel »

sergiotapia wrote: post #26
cozzyd wrote: post #22

Amusing to see what Grokipedia thinks of various cities. And no surprise, apartheid apologetics: https://grokipedia.com/page/Apartheid#debunking-prevailing-n... Hilarious factual errors in https://grokipedia.com/page/Green_Line_(CTA)

You can select text, and send factual errors to be fixed. If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes.

> If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes.

Why? This site isn't run by people who are interested in factual accuracy.

If they think Wikipedia articles are inaccurate, they could always propose changes and have a proper discussion with the rest of the contributors. Grok was trained on Wikipedia so realistically this is just a jumbled regurgitation of Wikipedia articles blended with other sources from across the web without the usual source vetting process that Wikipedia uses.

This is a politically motivated side project being run by the worlds richest man, and frankly I doubt many people are interested in helping him create his own padded version of reality.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by measurablefunc »

CSMastermind wrote: post #19

Seems kind of spase still? I tried looking up Little house on the parire and it turned up the TV show but not the book series. Reflections on Trusting Trust is mentioned in Ken Thompson's page but when I searched for it he wasn't part of the results.

It's yet another scam/beta product. He's testing the waters to see if it can be turned into a commercial project.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by fragmede »

dlivingston wrote: post #25
newer_vienna wrote: post #8

Getting the cloudflare error as well. Nevertheless this reminds me of an old Curtis Yarvin post on his proposal for a meta-wikipedia. "Uberfact". He's not everyone's cup of tea but I quite enjoy this article of his - https://www.unqualified-reservations.org/2007/08/uberfact-ul...

I recently watched a debate where Curtis Yarvin argued that democracy is a mistake and the USA should be ruled by, quite literally, a CEO dictator [0]. My understanding is that he has the ear of JD Vance and other high-ranking Republicans. This terrifies me. The country I grew up in & love is dead if these philosophies take root. [0]: https://youtu.be/irc6creOFGs

"The government should be run like a business" has been the belief in certain circles that predate the Internet, even.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by dabinat »

I guess this poses an interesting question: if Wikipedia was being created today, would it be a human- edited encyclopedia or would they just resort to AI because it’s easier? It makes me wonder if people will shy away from hard problems and just take the easy path, resulting in a shallower and less useful product to society.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by archagon »

dabinat wrote: post #35

I guess this poses an interesting question: if Wikipedia was being created today, would it be a human- edited encyclopedia or would they just resort to AI because it’s easier? It makes me wonder if people will shy away from hard problems and just take the easy path, resulting in a shallower and less useful product to society.

Without Wikipedia's corpus, today's AI might not even be possible.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by nake13 »

If you’ve tried OpenAI’s Deep Research or similar tools, you’ll know they pull far more info than Wikipedia. But if you’re an expert, you’ll quickly spot errors since the breadth is huge but the depth and accuracy are only so-so.

For non-experts just exploring new topics, it’s still perfectly useful. Grokipedia probably uses a similar search, verify, summarize workflow, so it naturally inherits mistakes from the internet, which isn’t really an LLM problem.

Grok is just the first to make it public, and other AI companies could easily build their own synthetic data Wikipedias, and some probably already have.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by charcircuit »

measurablefunc wrote: post #30
sergiotapia wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can select text, and send factual errors to be fixed. If you found something wrong in that article you should submit some fixes.

Why would you do free work for a company which is planning to profit from your labor? Wikipedia/Wikimedia is a non-profit. All of their money pays for real expenses instead of whatever vanity project Musk has decided is necessary to sell xAI to the masses.

Do you think Wikimedia doesn't profit off of the contributions people make to Wikipedia?

>pays for real expenses

Only a small percentage of donations do.

>instead of whatever vanity project

Anytime the topic of Wikimedia donations come up you will see people complaining about their vanity projects too, wishing they could donate towards wikipedia itself.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by measurablefunc »

charcircuit wrote: post #38
measurablefunc wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would you do free work for a company which is planning to profit from your labor? Wikipedia/Wikimedia is a non-profit. All of their money pays for real expenses instead of whatever vanity project Musk has decided is necessary to sell xAI to the masses.

Do you think Wikimedia doesn't profit off of the contributions people make to Wikipedia? >pays for real expenses Only a small percentage of donations do. >instead of whatever vanity project Anytime the topic of Wikimedia donations come up you will see people complaining about their vanity projects too, wishing they could donate towards wikipedia itself.

If you are happy to work for a for-profit corporation w/o any financial compensation then you are more than welcome to do that. Seems a bit irrational to me but that's just my opinion.

Re: Grokipedia by xAI

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Post by verdverm »

measurablefunc wrote: post #32
CSMastermind wrote: post #19

Seems kind of spase still? I tried looking up Little house on the parire and it turned up the TV show but not the book series. Reflections on Trusting Trust is mentioned in Ken Thompson's page but when I searched for it he wasn't part of the results.

It's yet another scam/beta product. He's testing the waters to see if it can be turned into a commercial project.

I'm not sure it isn't primarily to further the post-truth world where popularity trumps facts

Same story for Twitter

If he gets a $1T pay package, cost centers for the larger goal are rounding errors

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