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Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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Go make a list of the felony theft threshold in all fifty states then come back here and post where $950 falls among them.

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/criminal-def...

In Texas even if you steal $100 you can go to jail for 180 days.

The nuance in CA (before it recently changed) was that there was absolutely NOTHING you could do if they stole 3 lawnmowers.

Besides why fight this? You already know you're wrong.

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

#92
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They probably aren't the friends people are thinking of when referring to things like this. The benefit of friends isn't just that you have someone fun to talk to, it's that you're building out a social support circle. Your discord friends can't come over and help you clean up after a flood, or watch your dogs while you're away on a sudden emergency, or cook you a meal when you're grieving a loss, or help you get an…

Your discord friends can't come over and help you clean up after a flood, or watch your dogs while you're away on a sudden emergency, or cook you a meal when you're grieving a loss I'll make the counter argument that -- although I value those things and try to provide them to friends in need -- all of those can be addressed by hiring someone. On the other hand, I've recently received fantastic emotional support from…

Yeah and you can rent a truck every time you need to haul something, but it's nice when your friend lets you borrow his - and his manpower/time. And yeah, you can hire an emergency remediation company, or chef, or psychologist for your friends, but that seems... impersonal to me?

I'm not trying to say there's no value to Discord friends, but I do think it's substantially less valuable to the human condition than real, in-person friends.

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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That's one of Chomsky's major points for decades.

> That's one of Chomsky's major points for decades Curious for the source? To my recollection, Chomsky talked about distraction, i.e. repurposing attention. OP is talking about the pool of attention as a whole drying up (versus being misdirected).

Not to be flippant but this takes a couple of hours to essentially make the point that the complexities of the world resist summarization or at least the opportunistic summarization that can be used to sway the inattentive public (among other nuances to this) https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=BQXsPU25B60

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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embarrassingly haven't dug into Chomsky, this is another update towards me doing so soon!

OT: As someone in the same camp, does anyone have any recommendations on where would be best to start?

IMO these should be required reading for anyone unfamiliar with Chomsky's positions

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chom...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial

https://www.monbiot.com/2012/05/21/2181/ (Chomsky defending the decision to write a foreword for a book denying the Rwandan genocide)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair (Chomsky signed a petition supporting a Holocaust denier he felt had been mistreated)

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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When you look at studies, women and men are lonely at about the same rate. There are differences at the margins - period right after divorce, being stay at home and such. But overall rates are the same.

You mean "feel lonely at the same rate" or that they are actually alone at the same rate? Men do have fewer friends and its much more common for men to have no close friends at all.

The free market rate of a young/fit woman's sexual services are several hundred or even thousand+ $/hr. I suspect any man who is seen as potentially offering 100s of $/hr in services if you pretend to be a friend long enough, would see similar interest of fake friends.

I could see it making you even more lonely, to have to filter through that though, as a man is probably less likely to reject someone as a 'false positive' who might be a true friend through such filtering process. If you are down and out man and someone is being nice to you and not trying to sell you something, I've found it pretty rare that the person isn't being genuinely friendly. I've heard the exact opposite from females.

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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OT: As someone in the same camp, does anyone have any recommendations on where would be best to start?

You can start with his recent Russian apologia where he blames the U.S. and Ukraine for forcing Russia to invade Ukraine. That might provide some context when you read one of his books.

Yeah to be fair I dunno about that one yeesh

Re: Study finds growing social circles may fuel polarization

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OT: As someone in the same camp, does anyone have any recommendations on where would be best to start?

IMO these should be required reading for anyone unfamiliar with Chomsky's positions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambodian_genocide_denial#Chom... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide_denial https://www.monbiot.com/2012/05/21/2181/ (Chomsky defending the decision to write a foreword for a book denying the Rwandan genocide) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faurisson_affair (Chomsky signed a petition supporting…

The new editor-in-chief of CBS News, Bari Weiss, has been publishing genocide denial pieces, pointing ro various children dying in Gaza as false stories. That happened this week, you seem to be concerned that Chomsky signed a petition for Faurisson on the 1970s, that he should not be jailed for publishing his book on the holocaust. Chomsky signed hundreds of letters for jailed Soviet dissidents, Turkish authors on trial etc. That he did not want Faurisson jailed for his book is seen as a bad thing by those who don't believe in free speech and believe authors should be jailed by governments.

Regarding Cambodia, the Khmer Rouge coalition was pushed out in 1979 and the US began arming the KR coalition, providing UN support for it etc. You would think the US and Reagan arming the Khmer Rouge coalition more heinous, if you don't like them, than Chomsky saying the US should not bomb Cambodia in the 1970s etc.

The UN and every human rights organization in the world says the US has been and is involved in a genocide in Gaza. The denial of this in the US has been incredible, but now that the first stage is done the Press is more forthcoming about it. Something Chonsky opposed, the establishment supported.

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That's exactly right. For a long time people of color were relegated to lower paying jobs and faced higher police scrutiny. Similarly, less than a century ago women were practically property - unable to even get a bank account without a man's permission. Over the past century we've made significant progress in remediating these injustices. Unfortunately, this has caused the recent rise in reactionary politics. "Make…

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There's no law yet. But people in power seem highly in favor of it. Pete Hegseth seems to think women shouldn't be able to vote (https://19thnews.org/2025/08/pete-hegseth-doug-wilson-women-...) and he was joined by Charlie Kirk (https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-guest... https://19thnews.org/2025/08/pete-hegseth-doug-wilson-women-...)

Trump is throwing so many racist dog whistles it's a subject of scientific inquiry https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.pbs.org/newshour/amp/politi... https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=8997844... https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S266662272...

Charlie Kirk also thought that people of color shouldn't be pilots https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/columnist/mike-freeman...

As for the benefit of restricting the Ladies rooms to people that are assigned female at birth, that is less of a benefit than you seem to believe. How do you expect they will enforce such a rule?

So far this has resulted in countless women being groped in attempts to prove that they don't belong in the Ladies' room and a comparatively small number of trans-women with no where to go to the bathroom. Can't you see that this effectively punishes those women who don't meet a stereotypical view of women? Catching fictional trans-women peeking on women in restrooms is just the excuse! (Of course even you would understand that if you understood even the basics of gender dysphoria disorder).

As for your other point, well racists always have that one black friend - you know, to prove their not racist. And it seems like it's pretty profitable to be a token black or Hispanic person in the maga MAGA movement.

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