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My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Anyone got some favs to share? I need to read the new Peter Hamilton book (book 2 due out soon). And I am ashamed to admit I haven't read any Greg Egan yet, need to get on that :)

The City and the Stars by Arthur C Clarke is one of my favourites and have only ever met one other person who has read it. Just reread it recently and it's even better and more relevant than I remembered.

The 1950s was a particularly good time for sci fi I think.

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Anyone got some favs to share? I need to read the new Peter Hamilton book (book 2 due out soon). And I am ashamed to admit I haven't read any Greg Egan yet, need to get on that :)

I love Stanislaw Lem. Solaris is his most famous and it has many of his core themes; I'd also try Fiasco. I'm also a huge fan of R.A. Lafferty, but his stuff his harder to find, mostly out of print. Peter Watts' Blindsight is amazing recent-ish hard SF. (the follow-up, I did not like at all). Anything from the Strugatsky brothers you can get your hands on!

Solaris is such a unique concept. From Polish authors I've really enjoyed Limes Inferior by J. Zajdel. The concept of means of payment spoke to me, when I had my own wondering about workless future and digital currencies.

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How would you classify The Foundation? Classic sci-fi novel, right? But it has telepaths.. By modern standards, telepathy, empaths, telekinesis.. that's all magic. Fantasy. But in 20th century science fiction it was extremely common.

Note that in the 20th century telepathy was believed to be real.

Only for the earlier parts of that century. By the late 70s to 80s the scientific consensus was coming down hard against parapsychology but it continued to be featured in science fiction for quite some time. It was still going reasonably strong well into the 90s with popular media like Star Trek, Babylon 5, etc. You can still see some traces of it today, to an extent it has become a part of the genre that persists for legacy reasons, respect for or reference to older media in the genre.

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Anyone got some favs to share? I need to read the new Peter Hamilton book (book 2 due out soon). And I am ashamed to admit I haven't read any Greg Egan yet, need to get on that :)

I love Stanislaw Lem. Solaris is his most famous and it has many of his core themes; I'd also try Fiasco. I'm also a huge fan of R.A. Lafferty, but his stuff his harder to find, mostly out of print. Peter Watts' Blindsight is amazing recent-ish hard SF. (the follow-up, I did not like at all). Anything from the Strugatsky brothers you can get your hands on!

I also love Solaris. I remember reading it the first time as a teenager. It is so matter-of-fact in its telling, but the facts are so bizarre, that I found it to really induce terror. It has always struck me as more of a horror novel than as a sci-fi novel although it is clearly the latter.

There are now multiple English translations of Solaris available. I know that there’s been a lot of praise for the newer translation, and I read it, but I do not like it. Something about the earlier translation feels more ominous.

On that note—I’ve always found it hard to believe that The Cyberiad was written by the same author! I love the Cyberiad as well but almost for the opposite reasons I love Solaris. The entire universe is charming and funny, whereas Solaris is engrossing but dreadful. I went through a phase in college, reading every Lem book I could find, and eventually discovering that my library’s stacks also included Lem in Polish. Sadly I know no Polish, and was not motivated enough to learn it, so those novels remained off-limits to me.

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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I read sci-fi but not fantasy, why do people insist on lumping these together?

What's truly infuriating is how awful the tagging on Audible is. "The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe" is tagged sci-fi.

You would not believe how bad publisher data is. I run a book website, and Dune is often tagged nonfiction in the data we get from publishers. I don't think they know how to use the BISAC system the industry uses (https://bisg.org/page/BISACEdition). With Dune, they were marking it "AI," which is a nonfiction-only category.

Just one small example...

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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I read sci-fi but not fantasy, why do people insist on lumping these together?

How would you classify The Foundation? Classic sci-fi novel, right? But it has telepaths.. By modern standards, telepathy, empaths, telekinesis.. that's all magic. Fantasy. But in 20th century science fiction it was extremely common.

If it's called telepathy it's sci-fi, if it's called magic it's fantasy. Learn the rules!

On a more serious note, yeah scifi and fantasy can usually be distinguished, I get why it so often gets lumped in together as speculative fiction, even though it annoys me when I'm looking for one and have to sift through the other.

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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I'd like to recommend one as well: The City & the City, by China Miéville. A delightful, unique experience! Fresh and original, “fantasy science fiction”. Not a big fan of detective stories and noir, but this is something else.

I loved Perdido Street Station and The Scar. Haven't read this one but I'm adding it to my list now. Thanks!

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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Anyone got some favs to share? I need to read the new Peter Hamilton book (book 2 due out soon). And I am ashamed to admit I haven't read any Greg Egan yet, need to get on that :)

In the spirit of brining down the level of intellectual sophistication here, I have a few recommendations I've enjoyed.

- All 18 Expeditionary Force books by Craig Alanson

- The first 5 Starship's Mage books by Glynn Stewart. UnArcana Stars (book 6) went in a direction that made the government look extremely incompetent.

- Jacques McKeown series by Yahtzee Croshaw

- Murderbot Diaries by Martha Wells

- Bobiverse series by Dennis E. Taylor

Re: My favorite cult sci-fi and fantasy books you may not have heard of before

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I'd like to recommend one as well: The City & the City, by China Miéville. A delightful, unique experience! Fresh and original, “fantasy science fiction”. Not a big fan of detective stories and noir, but this is something else.

I found Railsea really fun. It's a bit silly and didn't take itself very seriously. Somehow it feels like it could have been a novelisation of a British 1960/70s stop motion TV show like the Clangers.
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