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Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by almosthere »

Marsymars wrote: post #96
wara23arish wrote: post #22

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which begs the question why even get a laptop as a daily driver people do it all the time for gaming laptops etc when probably 99% of their usage is at the same desk

I made this determination myself recently, and switched back to a Mac Mini after about a decade of docked laptop use. I use my 13" iPad w/keyboard and 5G when I want to be mobile.

I bought a m4 mac mini but even if 95% of my usage would have only been at my desk, that 5% actually makes me regret not going at least paying about $400 more for a macbook air so I can take it to the bedroom or to a coffee shop.

Thankfully my worklaptop is an m4 mb pro, so I have flexibility with that.

And indeed with virtual backgrounds in I do probably 3 meetings a week in my car so I can do quick errands without skipping a meeting here or there.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by FallCheeta7373 »

lenerdenator wrote: post #61

Honestly, I almost wish there was a push to get Apple to be more open on their OS code instead of trying to get Linux to support Apple Silicon. MacOS is a BSD of sorts, after all. While it'd be nice to be able to run Linux on my M2 MBP someday when Apple stops supporting it, ultimately, the reason many (but not all) power users buy Macs is because they want the UNIX/UNIX-like work done for them and for it to run on f…

Not happening—at least not under the current leadership— apple is not in it from the tech side, they're a design company, they make appliances not computers. Your macbook is like a fridge with certain restricted interfaces. The mindset and tradition is different from purely unix hacking, despite the userbase having an overlap. If you can convince your fridge manufacturer to be more open with their code in a competitive market, then maybe you can convince apple with similar sort of reasoning, probably involving some benefit in terms of profit.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by sedatk »

notepad0x90 wrote: post #40
dangus wrote: post #35

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My advice is if you’re truly a Linux user first, give up the idea that Mac hardware is the only best/acceptable hardware. Break the cycle and don’t just buy Apple because their hardware is 10% better than competitors. The market really isn’t limited to “buying a windows laptop and putting Linux onto it” anymore. Lots of OEMs support Linux as a first-class citizen. For me personally I’m enjoying my Framework laptop a…

I don't think any other competitor makes hardware of a similar class in terms of quality. Framework is great, but it doesn't even come close in terms of quality. Specs are one thing, how the product looks, feels, attention to detail, and most importantly: long term viability! even if you take away everything else, macbooks are though. I've used a couple for over a decade with no hardware repair (except when I broke a…

I’d say newest Surface Laptops are on par.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by neoromantique »

mort96 wrote: post #76
neoromantique wrote: post #63

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hyprland? That's ridiculous. I would understand if it was Lunduke or XLibre folk, but that's a complete non-issue.

Omarchy. DHH is absolutely on the level of Lunduke.

I don't know, I dislike DHH and actively debated with him on many occasions, but I wouldn't put him on the same level as Lunduke.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by jjtheblunt »

i was using Asahi on my M1 laptop, it was great, but have since switched to UTM.app (from the app store, but available outside it too), and configured to use Apple Silicon Hypervisor rather than QEMU, and it's been excellent, on M2 series processors at least. UTM warns its wrapping of the Apple Silicon hypervisor is not perfectly tested, but it's perfectly great.

(When configuring a new hypervisor-ed OS, i use a Fedora ISO for arm64 (or aarch64 (?)) and in the UTM.app gui choose Linux, which reveals the option to use native Apple Silicon hypervisor over QEMU.)

just my $0.02

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by gedy »

mort96 wrote: post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

Son has a Framework with Linux and he prefers it to a MacBook Pro (with or without Linux).

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by mystifyingpoi »

dangus wrote: post #35
mort96 wrote: post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

My advice is if you’re truly a Linux user first, give up the idea that Mac hardware is the only best/acceptable hardware. Break the cycle and don’t just buy Apple because their hardware is 10% better than competitors. The market really isn’t limited to “buying a windows laptop and putting Linux onto it” anymore. Lots of OEMs support Linux as a first-class citizen. For me personally I’m enjoying my Framework laptop a…

> owning/carrying around a $50 portable battery isn’t such a bad thing

Carrying an extra powerbank that has to be charged daily (assuming you'll use your computer full day) is not something I'd just handwave like that.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by latexr »

bigyabai wrote: post #100
rogerrogerr wrote: post #99

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It's really pretty incredible - that people are putting up with Apple's "keep-away" is evidence of just how unbelievably far ahead they are in hardware.

Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple, that customers perceive to be symbiotic but business-wise is wholly parasitic. Like I said, Apple could be a real player... if they had any incentive to compete.

> Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple

Pretty hard to make that argument about people who explicitly want to get rid of Apple’s OS from their hardware.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by bigyabai »

latexr wrote: post #108
bigyabai wrote: post #100

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Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple, that customers perceive to be symbiotic but business-wise is wholly parasitic. Like I said, Apple could be a real player... if they had any incentive to compete.

> Or it could be a symbol of an unhealthy emotional attachment to Apple Pretty hard to make that argument about people who explicitly want to get rid of Apple’s OS from their hardware.

Nope, as a former macOS user myself I can assure you it's quite trivial.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by carlosjobim »

mort96 wrote: post #29
simjnd wrote: post #24

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I'm not. You mentioned Docker and virtualisation and this tool has addressed most of my pain points with those, that's it.

Sounds like it doesn't address my pain points then...

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