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Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by WD-42 »

wara23arish wrote: post #22
intrasight wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honest question: why would you care about battery in your daily driver? aren't you sitting or standing at a desk?

which begs the question why even get a laptop as a daily driver people do it all the time for gaming laptops etc when probably 99% of their usage is at the same desk

Powerful desktop at home + Tailscale + super light old Thinkpad with amazing battery life has been working really well for me whenever I need to be out and about. As long as remote development works for you I think this is the way.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by evertedsphere »

dangus wrote: post #35
mort96 wrote: post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

My advice is if you’re truly a Linux user first, give up the idea that Mac hardware is the only best/acceptable hardware. Break the cycle and don’t just buy Apple because their hardware is 10% better than competitors. The market really isn’t limited to “buying a windows laptop and putting Linux onto it” anymore. Lots of OEMs support Linux as a first-class citizen. For me personally I’m enjoying my Framework laptop a…

if only it were 10%

even the things you mention in your post paint a picture of a difference that for a lot of usage patterns is much more significant than just the last 10%

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by WD-42 »

mort96 wrote: post #32
wara23arish wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

which begs the question why even get a laptop as a daily driver people do it all the time for gaming laptops etc when probably 99% of their usage is at the same desk

I have a desktop, but I could imagine a life with only a laptop. Sure, maybe 99% of my usage would be at one desk, but if I need that other 1%, I need a laptop. It's the desktop that's an optional nice-to-have. And not everyone can afford or wants to have two computers which are powerful enough to do what they need. In reality, far more than 1% of my computer use happens away from the desk where my desktop is located…

You still only need 1 powerful computer. Networks are so fast these days and we have stuff like Tailscale it’s pretty easy to use the laptop as a dumb terminal and do all your work still on the fast computer.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by lagniappe »

achandlerwhite wrote: post #15
throw728349 wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

[flagged]

do you have a link or anything that supports this claim? As I recall it was an error in the reporting utility not the drives themselves.

It's best not to respond to unruly green names.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by dagmx »

nicce wrote: post #6

How is the project actually doing? Feels like most original core developers have quit.

The project is currently focusing primarily on reducing the number of patches against the Linux kernel which has somewhat slowed their rapid development rate.

It’s a massive task keeping the large number of patches going, while simultaneously trying to land them in the mainline kernel.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by monocasa »

LtdJorge wrote: post #34
nightski wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean sure, but ARM SoC in Linux has been a thing for quite some time in the embedded space. This is hardly new.

That’s true, but the Apple chips are not built on the base Arm designs and don’t use Adreno, they also use more proprietary IP in the SoC.

Adreno is proprietary IP; it's an exclusively Qualcomm thing.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by mort96 »

dangus wrote: post #35
mort96 wrote: post #5

I have a 2021 MacBook Pro with an M1 Pro. It's getting a bit old, so it would be nice to replace it with a new MacBook Pro in not too long. But honestly, losing Linux support would be pretty devastating. Docker and virtualization just isn't the same. There's lots of interesting stuff you can do with your hardware in Linux, there's for example Linux-specific software which puts the WiFi card in promiscuous mode and do…

My advice is if you’re truly a Linux user first, give up the idea that Mac hardware is the only best/acceptable hardware. Break the cycle and don’t just buy Apple because their hardware is 10% better than competitors. The market really isn’t limited to “buying a windows laptop and putting Linux onto it” anymore. Lots of OEMs support Linux as a first-class citizen. For me personally I’m enjoying my Framework laptop a…

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Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by bluedino »

einsteinx2 wrote: post #2

I really love what Asahi Linux is doing, but given Apple’s yearly release cadence of new chips, it feels like a Sisyphean task. Though in the plus side, even the base M1 is so capable that even if they stopped there it would be useful for years to come.

> even the base M1 is so capable that even if they stopped there it would be useful for years to come.

My M1 Air is 4 years old and it's by far the most capable 4 year old Mac I've owned.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by fluoridation »

achairapart wrote: post #37

Twenty years ago people went to great lenghts to run the best OS available at that time on cheap commodity x86 hardware with hackintoshes. Fast forward to today, similar efforts are made to run linux on the best hardware available. It's funny how things turn around.

To clarify, people then and now have in common trying to run the software they prefer on the hardware they prefer. There's no objective "best"; it depends on what you need.

Re: Asahi Linux Still Working on Apple M3 Support, M1n1 Bootloader Going Rust

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Post by ndiddy »

nicce wrote: post #6

How is the project actually doing? Feels like most original core developers have quit.

The project is currently mainly focused on upstreaming as many of their patches as possible, and maintaining the existing code. M3/4/5 have a completely different GPU instruction set from M1/2, so they would need a large amount of new reverse engineering to get the GPU support where it is on M1/2. I don't believe there's anyone working on GPU support for those newer platforms.
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